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Titleist’s GT drivers already have pros raving about 1 crucial aspect

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Horschel is contemplating a switch to Titleist Tour-only GT3 driver at the Memorial.

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DUBLIN, Ohio — Billy Horschel could sense something was different. Midway through a Monday afternoon Titleist GT driver testing session, Horschel watched in anticipation as the ball finally came to rest on the back of the Muirfield Village Golf Club driving range.

Horschel’s polished swing makes it difficult to discern between perfect strikes and misses during testing. Feedback is critical to determine if adjustments need to be made to the club in question. So, too, is a launch monitor that spits out instantaneous data.

Lucky for Liam McDougall, Titleist’s European director of tour operations, Horschel always keeps the feedback flowing.

“That one was low on the face,” Horschel noted. “But it still felt like it was coming out of a good window.”

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As McDougall assessed the launch monitor data on a tablet, he paused and turned to Horschel.

“What do you think the spin rate was on that one?” McDougall said.

For Horschel, a low miss tends to increase spin from 2,200 to 2,900 RPMs, leading to a dip in distance in most cases. For someone who currently ranks 93rd on Tour in driving distance, every yard counts when attempting to clear a bunker at 300 yards. But this particular drive was coming out of Horschel’s usual launch window (10-11 degrees) with 2,400 spin. (Horschel’s clubhead speed increased from 115 to 116.5 mph and ball speed ticked up from 173-174 to 175-178 during driver testing between TSR3 and GT3 .)

In other words, the penalty for a low miss wasn’t showing up on the launch monitor.

“When you have a guy like Rory [McIlroy] who’s cruising in the upper 180s [ball speed], he can carry things 300 yards regardless of whether he’s spinning it 2,200 or 2,800 [RPMs],” Horschel told GOLF.com. “That ball is still going 310-plus yards. For someone like myself who carries it 295, I can carry things at 300 yards, but I have to be able to launch it and have the right spin.

In recent years, equipment manufacturers have begun to crack the driver code through new materials and processes. In the past, design sacrifices had to be made to produce certain launch, spin and forgiveness characteristics. Pull one performance lever and another had to be released. There was always a tradeoff to be made. But that could be changing.

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“Having those spin rates so tight allows me to get similar carry distances even when I don’t hit it good. If I do miss one a little thin, it’s not spinning at 2,800 or 2,900 where it could fly 10 yards shorter,” Horschel said. “It’s still going to fly the same distance or maybe a few yards shorter than if I hit it solid. It gives me the confidence if there’s a bunker at 300 or 305 I want to carry, I don’t have to be perfect. I can miss it and know it’s still going to carry. Once I get above 175, that gets me to the 300-plus yards of carry without having to launch it 13 degrees with 2,000 spin. I can still launch it in my window at 10 or 11 degrees with 2,300 or 2,400. Those extra 2 miles per hour go a long way.”

Titleist’s new GT drivers, which were released on Tour at the Memorial, appear to be the latest offering to feature tight spin deltas across the face. The tighter the spin rate on a mishit, compared to a center strike, the more consistent the launch and carry numbers. It essentially adds a new layer of forgiveness and ball speed retention where golfers need it most.

Along with Horschel, GOLF.com witnessed several GT driver testing sessions that produced similar spin rate results on misses. Peter Malnati, who has a low miss tendency, found distance gains through the same tight spin rate deltas as Horschel, along with an uptick in ball speed.

“When you look at [Peter], he swings well when he’s down,” JJ Van Wezenbeeck, Titleist’s director of player promotions, told GOLF.com. “He wants that cover down and is a lower-launch guy who misses more off the bottom. Getting better ball speeds down there is always important.

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“Consistency has been showing up out here during testing. Launch, spin and speed are staying there, even on those misses. Getting a little uptick in speed is good for these guys, but when you’re playing the harder golf courses, having that consistency off the face is at a premium.”

While tighter spin rate deltas appear to be the biggest improvement from TSR to GT, Horschel highlighted another aspect that earned his approval.

“To me, the feel is persimmon-like,” said Horschel. “Ping Rapture was one of my favorites — the way it sounded, felt, looked. This Titleist [GT] is very similar to that. Everyone is different out here in the way they judge feel. I want it to feel really solid where the ball is staying on the face for a long time. I can relate to feel off that and it gives me a good idea if I missed it or hit it good. I’ve always been that way.”

With initial testing out of the way, Horschel and other potential GT users in the field at Muirfield Village will have to decide if they want to give the driver a go this week ahead of the U.S. Open. Although the two-year cadence is the same, this is the earliest Titleist has released a driver on Tour.

Asked why Titleist chose to go earlier than usual, Van Wezenbeeck said it was a no-brainer after the feedback they received from pros who helped develop the final GT product, including Will Zalatoris.

“We had guys like Will coming to us asking if they could test it,” Van Wezenbeeck said. “When you have a good thing, you don’t want to wait until the Fall to bring it out here.”

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Winner's Bag: See clubs Scottie Scheffler used to capture fifth victory of season at the Memorial

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Scottie Scheffler captured his fifth victory of the season and third Signature Event at the Memorial Tournament presented by Workday.

Check out the clubs he used to dominate at Muirfield Village below.

Driver: TaylorMade Qi10 (8 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 7 X

3-wood: TaylorMade Qi10 (15 degrees) Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 8 X

Irons: Srixon ZU85 (3, 4), TaylorMade P7TW (5-PW) Shafts: Nippon N.S. Pro Modus 3 Hybrid Prototype 10 X (3), True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100

Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM8 (50-12F, 56-14F), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60-T) Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400

Putter: TaylorMade Spider Tour X Grip: Golf Pride Pro Only Cord

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Tour issue irons: A look behind the curtain

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Thanks to the big win by Francesco Molinari at the Arnold Palmer Invitational recently, I think it’s important to evaluate a few things that are very interesting about his equipment, and the equipment used by other players on tour.

First off, even after a banner year, including a major victory at The Open Championship,  Molinari made a full-scale equipment change to a full bag of Callaway clubs, including the Chrome Soft X Ball.

Certainly, this speaks to his confidence in the company’s equipment in general. Specifically, though, the most interesting part of this new full bag of Callaway gear are some interesting prototype blade irons, that when asked about were confirmed to  Golf.com ‘s Jonathan Wall “These [Apex MB] forged blades are made, I think, in Japan, so they’re slightly different from the standard muscle back.”

As you can see below they are similar but clearly are a different shape from the retail offering below.

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I decided to point these prototype irons out on Twitter (  Twitter – Ryan Barath ) not realizing the amount of attention it would get. But none the less, it was intended to educate not to create confusion. The one thing that continues to be true with professional golf is that PGA Tour pros (especially ones with majors on their resumes) have access to essentially anything they want from their sponsors including “made for” prototypes. Let’s be real straight here, this kind of stuff has been going on for a long long time even back to persimmon woods, but thanks to social media and full-time equipment coverage, the consumer has the ability to see what’s really going on behind the curtain.

So what are some famous examples of “tour issue” clubs? Where do they come from? Who’s got them?  What do they really offer? Let’s take a look back over the last couple decades and find the real gems.

Tiger Woods: multiple sets

Before amateur Tiger became professional Tiger, he was racking up wins with a combo set of Mizuno MP14 and 29 irons. After that, it was on to Titleist, then the BIG Swoosh. At Titleist, Tiger worked with the legendary builder Larry Bobka, and together they created sets just for him. (Full story on The Gear Dive Chats with Larry Bobka)

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Larry Bobka Ground Titleist Blades

With Nike’s departure from the equipment space and now being a part of TaylorMade’s staff, Tiger has the ability to work with their entire R&D team, while also benefiting from Mike Taylor’s work at Artisan Golf in Ft Worth Texas, to create the original masters for what are now the P7TW irons.

There was always speculation about this relationship until recently when it was confirmed by PGA Tour.com’s Equipment Writer, Andrew Tursky, during an interview with Tiger

“Yeah, he ( Mike Taylor ) worked on all these irons. He worked on all my wedges. I talk to him probably every few weeks, giving updates on how I feel, things that I think could be better. He’ll bounce a few ideas off me, what I think, what direction we need to go down the road, how can we make them any better than what they are. And this is the same process I went through all those years when I was working with him at Nike. But now working with him at TaylorMade, it’s a lot more seamless.”

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What makes Tiger’s irons unique is they are very square and have a high muscle, which leads to a higher COG. This is the most apparent with his new TaylorMade irons compared to the other P730 model. The other thing with Tiger is that he famously plays what we now consider weak lofted clubs with a 49 to 50-degree pitching wedge, compared to the modern standard of 45. As one of the best ball strikers the game has EVER seen, and someone that has notoriously been an extremely picky player from an equipment standpoint, it makes sense that Tiger wants to see the ball go through very precise windows and feel a very particular way.

Beyond the irons, there are also the many, many prototype fixed-hosel drivers that he played during his time with Nike golf including:  Original Forged, Ignite, SQ Sumo, VR Proto, Vr Dymo Tour (also made famous Mr. Anthony Kim) and then finally the Covert. Only a few of these were ever made available at retail.

Mike Weir: Left-handed R7 forged protos

Canada’s favorite lefty. Before signing his agreement with Taylormade, Mike used to play Hogan irons — if you are familiar with the Hogan brand and some of its designs, there are a few classic telltale design traits, including a higher straight (very square) hosel transition to the top line, a good amount of offset, and an overall square look.

In the era of big money on tour, and with Weir’s status as one of the top-15 players in the world during the 2000s, he was able to work into his contract that he would only play irons if they 100 percent fit his eye. It was this little clause (confirmed and not confirmed) that throughout his best finishes (including his Masters win), Mike played a set of completely one-off TaylorMade prototypes.

Weir’s irons were always branded with the most modern line TaylorMade was producing, but the most famous of these were his original left-handed prototype R7 irons. A standard (and very different) retail version of these came out in limited numbers right-handed, but as far as “tour issue” gear goes, these are still considered one of the rarest sets ever produced.

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Danny Lee: Luke Donald Personal Grind MP-32s

Although I did a full breakdown on these a few weeks ago ( WRX article here ), these irons deserve to be in this conversation, not because of their age and recent usage, but as an example of how some tour only gear is really just a small tweak to an already fantastic design. As a Mizuno fan and gear junkie, although they didn’t last a very long time in Danny’s bag, I’m seriously hoping they make a return sometime this year.

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Francesco Molinari’s Callaway Apex MBs

I mentioned these off the top, but what I want to discuss is that, although these are clearly not the retail version of the Apex MB, we as consumers should understand that what we are playing is still 100-percent premium equipment. A set of irons like this is way more about looks than performance. Francesco is one of the premier iron players in the game, and like any player that has a crazy repeatable action (and by the way hits golf balls day in and day out FOR A LIVING), he wanted something that fit his eye with squarer lines compared to the standard Apex MB, and Callaway did its part as his sponsor to deliver an iron to his liking. Don’t forget it took a bag full of woods, hybrids, and wedges to help Francesco get another win under his belt.

Sure, not everyone can go out and fully customize the head shape of an Apex MB, but if you are looking to go that extra mile and get exactly what you are looking for there are options out there including Yoro Craft from Mizuno and National Custom Works irons by Don White. Are they pricey? Yep! BUT if you want something all yours, the option is there.

So what does this mean for the average golfer?

It’s extremely important to get custom fit for your irons and approach the process of getting a new set with an open mind. The reason these tour issue clubs exist in the first place is because OEMs want to make sure that their players under contract are using something that fits them to a tee, along with hoping to have these in the winning bag come Sunday afternoon. It’s way better to have your “guy” playing a prototype that he loves and plays well with, then having him feel like he is compromising and running the risk of not playing his best. We all know confidence in equipment means the same to a tour pro as (if not more than) it does to a 15 handicap.

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In their own way, what these OEMs are doing is creating a “branded” brand-agnostic bags so that each player has exactly what they need. These designs are still coming from in-house company designers (in 99 percent of cases ), but as we already know, the difference is these clubs are either extremely small batch or one-off prototypes. Same can be said for metal woods, since we have seen examples of fixed hosel Callaway Epic Flash fairway woods, too. The other thing to consider is, thanks to these prototypes, designs are constantly being tweaked, and the next generation of retail clubs might take these preferences built right in — the Luke Donald grind is the perfect example.

GolfWRX was founded with the idea to share these unique clubs and help people see “behind the curtain” when it comes to equipment from every OEM. Whether it be a $4,000 Scotty Cameron 009 that might work just as well as a $150 putter with identical specs, it’s not really about that for “us.” It’s about having something different and unique. Within every group of hobbyists, there are those that seek out the different and rare. From sneakers, to cars, to golf clubs, I’d be completely dishonest if I said the “cool” factor wasn’t part of the what makes these things so interesting in the first place.

When talking to GolfWRX founder Easyyy recently about the history of the site and some of the crazy gear we have seen over the years, we both agreed that there is “something” about playing either tour issue gear, or a club built just for you. The driver you know the exact specs of, the irons with different bounce or grooves, the wedges with grinds you just can’t buy off the shelf — whether they really are better or not, as golfers we want EVERY single last advantage we can get out of our gear, and getting the chance to play these clubs and feeling like there is a positive impact might just be as good as intrinsically superior equipment.

At the end of the day, for us mortals who are buying our own equipment, it’s vital to get the most out any new clubs by keeping an open mind on everything from brand to shaft flex, and in some cases, seeking out a tour issue component. Regardless of brand, choose the 14 clubs that fit you best and the ones you like the look of. Like I said before, confidence in your gear is something you can’t put a price on.

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Ryan Barath is a club-fitter & master club builder with more than 17 years of experience working with golfers of all skill levels, including PGA Tour players. He is the former Build Shop Manager & Social Media Coordinator for Modern Golf. He now works independently from his home shop and is a member of advisory panels to a select number of golf equipment manufacturers. You can find Ryan on Twitter and Instagram where he's always willing to chat golf, and share his passion for club building, course architecture and wedge grinding.

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Apr 14, 2019 at 8:53 pm

All USGA Conforming

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Apr 9, 2019 at 2:25 pm

I read above about the Miura comment but was told by a Lynx Tour rep. that the Lynx Irons Fred Couples used were actually forged by Miura and stamped Lynx.

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Rich Douglas

Apr 7, 2019 at 9:01 pm

I “Liked” the article, but I never, ever read WITB pieces. They don’t matter for two important reasons.

First, WITB should be re-named “WITC” (What’s in the Contract). There are almost no choices being made by these players; they play what they’re being paid to play. Why should the reader care about that? The only time the concept is at all interesting is when a player signs a deal and has to play clubs that mess up his game. Payne Stewart comes to mind.

Second, it doesn’t matter WITB because it doesn’t apply to “WIYB” (What’s in YOUR Bag). As this article demonstrates, you can’t get what your favorite pro plays because his/her gear is custom-made, fitted, and ground. Even if it is marked the same, the clubs usually aren’t. Also, you can’t play that club anyway. You can’t play ANY of the clubs in the player’s bag–even the driver is different (and probably has a lot more swing weight and a much lower CG).

That’s why people go nuts over putters. They’re the one club Joe Average can wield just like his favorite pro. Remember when Nicklaus won the Master’s in ’86 using that giant brick on a fishing rod? They sold a huge number of those in the ensuing weeks!

WITB? Who cares? I don’t care what kind of shocks are on Kyle Busch’s car and I don’t care what irons Tiger Woods is gaming. I can’t use either one.

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May 5, 2019 at 6:45 am

…yeah…go get em’ brother…

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Mar 29, 2019 at 6:30 pm

“I mentioned these off the top, but what I want to discuss is that, although these are clearly not the retail version of the Apex MB, we as consumers should understand that what we are playing is still 100-percent premium equipment.”

I think this has always been up for debate. In their heyday tour issue clubs weren’t just more desirable for their uniqueness, they were desirable because of their quality, look and feel. Our store bought equipment just wasn’t the same, the difference between the place of manufacturer was noticeable.

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Mar 29, 2019 at 4:43 pm

In my time with Adams Golf, we had dozens of “tour issue” hybrids that you couldn’t buy on the shelves that were in the bags of tour players. From the 9031sf and 9031df hybrids to the highly sought after “PNT” hybrids, each hybrid was basically an “in betweener” that made it easier for us as reps to get a hybrid into a particular players bag because it gave us more shots for the players to be able to hit. The stock offerings were great, but Tour players often needed the flight to be a little higher or lower to fit their eye, or a face angle or paint line to be a little lower on the crown to have a certain look. We even had every loft from 14* to 28* in some models of the hybrids available to the players so we could hit a certain yardage gap, and we bent every hybrid we made to loft, and lie spec.

Every player was different and had a different idea of how they needed that club to perform, and we were able to deliver because we had the ability to fill gaps. As far as the “tour issue” clubs being hotter, or more or less forgiving, etc….. not true. Faces on tour were more closely monitored to ensure that they were conforming to USGA specs and were often “slower” off the face than retail models to ensure that there was no chance of structural failure during play. The last thing you wanted as a rep was to have a “gamer” crack. You lost your chance to get a second one in play.

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Kade Patterson

Mar 29, 2019 at 12:50 pm

Weirs irons are absolutely hideous!

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Harry H Adam

Apr 29, 2019 at 6:11 pm

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Mar 29, 2019 at 10:30 am

Most of these are Muiras

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Mar 30, 2019 at 10:14 pm

Please…..stop……with the “they’re all Muiras” bullshit line….

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Mar 29, 2019 at 10:26 am

234 negative reactions in the first hour? Why?

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Shallowface

Mar 29, 2019 at 7:31 am

An interesting read. I’d like to see something similar on the golf balls currently used on Tour, as we’ve heard in the past that a lot of custom designs and even past models are in play.

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Mar 29, 2019 at 10:54 am

I’ve heard their is 6 models of Pro V1/V1x in play on tour not including older models. Most are lower or high spin versions.

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Mar 29, 2019 at 7:23 pm

For sure you can bet Ricky has special balls from Taylormade… grew up with an uncle in the golf ball business…(past in 2010) he told me many players have special little needs that could be taken care of in their supply of golf balls..but he said they were not major differences from the standard and some just got balls that were considered the best of a bunch….

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Mar 30, 2019 at 11:37 am

No Ricky played the commercial ball. Years ago Sergio played a ball with a different dimple pattern, (bigger and fewer). Rose went to it also. That went on for 2-3 years but it worked as a prototype that helped development of later commercial models. Tiger at Nike usually played a special ball for himself. Most of the tour ballspice today are either the commercial ball or a prototype for the next model. Titleist has typically been the one to have the most different balls. But they have tried to stem the tide in recent years. They stopped shipping every model to each tour stop and forced those who wanted the oldest models to receive like 100 dozen at a time and bring their own balls to each event.

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Mar 30, 2019 at 4:04 pm

Not only is Titliest a customer of mine but I know a couple who works at Titliest – ProV line. So while they have Prototype runs they Pros are playing the cream of the crop production balls. Ones that meet a much deeper check list than what hits the shelves. Ones that don’t hit the shelves sell as defects or range Premium balls. Pros can certainly request more of the prototype balls but if they aren’t production models that Pro will not have them very long. The changes made in release is so small and there is no way Titliest could cater to each swing.

Apr 15, 2019 at 12:01 am

That sounds just what a Taylormade rep told me….tour players get the ones with fastest cores and get the best of of the best of any lot.

May 5, 2019 at 6:48 am

…that…would be on eye opener…

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Mar 29, 2019 at 3:08 am

Yeah that Apex MB is actually a Mizuno lol What a load of bull

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Mar 29, 2019 at 10:21 am

Strange, it looks exactly like the MP-33! Mizuno ftw!

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Mar 29, 2019 at 4:28 pm

Not hardly ????

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Mar 30, 2019 at 9:49 pm

It’s closer to a Miz than it is to a Cally….

…what?….WHAT!?!?!

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W ith a win at the Memorial, Scottie Scheffler became the first player to notch five wins before the U.S. Open since Tom Watson in 1980. That’s when Sansabelt pants and persimmon woods were the order of the day. Although Scheffler’s equipment is decidedly more modern, his winning score of eight under par was old school, matching that of 1980 Memorial winner David Graham.

Muirfield Village was at its testing best. Still, Scheffler knew Sunday was going to require some fortitude.

“This is one of those places where there's certain holes where you just got to step up and hit a great shot,” said Scheffler after the third round. “There's a lot of spots out there where if you play too conservative, you can get into some pretty tough spots pretty quick, so just do your best to execute and when you need to, just really hit great shots.”

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One of those great shots was a 16-foot par putt at the par-3 16th that kept him one in front of Collin Morikawa, who must be getting tired of facing Scheffler on Sunday (see: Masters, RBC Heritage). Scheffler changed to a TaylorMade Spider Tour X X1 mallet putter from his Scotty Cameron blade at the Arnold Palmer Invitational after doing extensive testing at home and has been on a heater ever since. The putter is a half-inch longer than his previous gamer and has an L-Neck hosel and TaylorMade’s True Path alignment aid on top with a full line sightline on top. The putter has 3 degrees of loft with a lie angle of 72 degrees. The insert is an 80/20 TaylorMade Pure Roll insert and the grip is a Golf Pride pistol.

Although Scheffler putted well enough to post positive strokes gained/putting numbers (picking up almost two shots on the field), the approach game was more quintessential Scheffler as he ranked first in strokes gained/approach the green, gaining a remarkable 13-plus strokes on the field. He also topped the field in greens in regulation.

Scheffler’s TaylorMade P7TW irons are based off Tiger Woods’ muscleback blades and have True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 shafts and Golf Pride Tour Velvet grips.

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Ok, I did a search, but found nothing...Would someone please tell me the difference between Titleist Tour Issue irons and woods V.S. Titleist Retail irons and woods?

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tour pros have their clubs built to their exact specs (length, loft, swingweight, grinds, shafts, paintfill, etc.) as well as having the opportunity to pick heads for their woods from a large selection to find the one that feels best to them. the major difference is that tour equipment have much higher weight tolerances than retail (2 gram max variation, or something close to that). other than that theres no difference between "tour" and "retail" titleist equipment

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Unless it's a true tour only model or a prototype, a Titleist tour head will be the same as a retail head in the majority of cases. Of course, a tour head is likely to have been meticulously selected for a specific headweight and for other specs, plus it could have had any number of tweaks made to it to fit it to an individual player - which you, as a buyer, may well be unaware of - but the club itself is nothing special. No fancy alloys. Nothing from Roswell. Just a stock Titleist like you can buy in the shops. Just an aside, but the lack of a serial number on a head doesn't mean it's definitely from the tour either.

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its mostly built to a tighter tolerance in weight and specs sometimes you might get a slightly hotter face.

CENTER OF GRAVITY LOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT SPIN RATES IN SOME OF THE HEADS ALSO THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS 98% OF TIME HOTMELTED SINCE THE AVERAGE LENGTH IN A DRIVER IS 44.50 AND THEY LIKE D2-D4 SWINGWEIGHTS THEY HAVE TO HOTMELT THE HEADS FOR THE EXTRA WEIGHT WHICH WILL MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER AND MUFFLE THE SOUND. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEADS THERE IS A BLACK DOT A GOOD CLUB BUILDER CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE HOTMELT A RETAIL HEAD AND FILL THE WHOLE BACK IN. THE HEADS, SHAFTS, FLEX, INSTALL EVERYTHING IS SPEC OUT EXACTY FOR TH EPLAYER AND VERY CONSISATNT BETEWEEN EACH EACH CLUB FOR BALL FLIGHT AND FEEL.

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The difference in tour equipment and retail is that tour equipment is specificly fitted for the pros. A retail club is just a standard lie, loft, swingweight, etc. put on the shelves at golf stores. You can get the retail clubs fitted for yourself if you wanted.

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[quote name='bsc1872' post='1966103' date='Sep 22 2009, 02:02 PM']CENTER OF GRAVITY LOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT SPIN RATES IN SOME OF THE HEADS ALSO THEY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS 98% OF TIME HOTMELTED SINCE THE AVERAGE LENGTH IN A DRIVER IS 44.50 AND THEY LIKE D2-D4 SWINGWEIGHTS THEY HAVE TO HOTMELT THE HEADS FOR THE EXTRA WEIGHT WHICH WILL MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER AND MUFFLE THE SOUND. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEADS THERE IS A BLACK DOT A GOOD CLUB BUILDER CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE HOTMELT A RETAIL HEAD AND FILL THE WHOLE BACK IN. THE HEADS, SHAFTS, FLEX, INSTALL EVERYTHING IS SPEC OUT EXACTY FOR TH EPLAYER AND VERY CONSISATNT BETEWEEN EACH EACH CLUB FOR BALL FLIGHT AND FEEL.[/quote] Wrong, we hotmelt heads in the factory as well as in the vans. Actually on tour, they use less hotmelt than in the factory because they have weight screws for the woods and hybrids.

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Interesting discussion. I think we are always looking for "some" difference and find it hard to believe when it seems the club is just fit to the individual. Titleist makes a great product.

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"Hot Melt".... Is this the hot glue material, or some actual metallic stuff? Just curious. Thanks for the 411 :-)

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No difference unless a prototype.

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As an owner of several Tour Issue Titleist products i feel like i have to comment on this one. In my opinion there is a difference in the true tour products to retail. I have found that the prototype and never released products are superior to the released retail items, but there is little difference in a tour item and its retail counterpart. For instance, the D4 is a superior driver to the D2 that was released to the public. The F3-05 is a superior fairway club to the 906F2 that was the retail release, the 970 was superior to the 975 and PT products of their time. I have a tour issue 503H that has far less offset and a square face vs the retail version. The Tour Vokey wedges i have seem to spin more than a retail, and if you see them side by side, there are noticable differences. I had a D2 Tour Issue and a Retail version and there were no noticable performance differences. Again, when i take any retail club head to head with the same club in Tour i dont think i could tell the differences. From my experience the tour products are "better", but you are not comparing apples to apples.

[quote name='mat562' post='1965485' date='Sep 22 2009, 11:44 AM']Unless it's a true tour only model or a prototype, a Titleist tour head will be the same as a retail head in the majority of cases. Of course, a tour head is likely to have been meticulously selected for a specific headweight and for other specs, plus it could have had any number of tweaks made to it to fit it to an individual player - which you, as a buyer, may well be unaware of - but the club itself is nothing special. No fancy alloys. Nothing from Roswell. Just a stock Titleist like you can buy in the shops. Just an aside, but the lack of a serial number on a head doesn't mean it's definitely from the tour either.[/quote] [b]EXACTLY [/b]correct. No magic pixy dust, superduper glue, unobtanium metals, etc. AND ... FWIW ... most amateurs would be WAY better off not owning and trying to play a "Tour" club. Odds are it would be very ill-fitting for the average player.

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the really big difference is that those guys are insanely good at golf, their personalized equipment helps, but they are just way too good

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[quote name='JHR' post='1973803' date='Sep 26 2009, 09:48 PM']As an owner of several Tour Issue Titleist products i feel like i have to comment on this one. In my opinion there is a difference in the true tour products to retail. I have found that the prototype and never released products are superior to the released retail items, but there is little difference in a tour item and its retail counterpart. For instance, the D4 is a superior driver to the D2 that was released to the public. The F3-05 is a superior fairway club to the 906F2 that was the retail release, the 970 was superior to the 975 and PT products of their time. I have a tour issue 503H that has far less offset and a square face vs the retail version. The Tour Vokey wedges i have seem to spin more than a retail, and if you see them side by side, there are noticable differences. I had a D2 Tour Issue and a Retail version and there were no noticable performance differences. Again, when i take any retail club head to head with the same club in Tour i dont think i could tell the differences. From my experience the tour products are "better", but you are not comparing apples to apples.[/quote] That's all opinion though, I'm sure there are many players that like the D2 better than the D4. The F3-05 is a completely different club but IMO was not a club made for your average golfer. As far as the 970...the grey head model was nearly identical to the 975 IMO and the silver head model I hit was better for me simply because it had a better shaft than the stock S300 that came with the PT. But I'm not sure the 970 silver head was better than the PT. And how can the 503 be closed? Its an iron hybrid...although I have never seen one with less offset.

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[quote name='Dizzub' post='1978268' date='Sep 29 2009, 01:41 PM'][quote name='JHR' post='1973803' date='Sep 26 2009, 09:48 PM']As an owner of several Tour Issue Titleist products i feel like i have to comment on this one. In my opinion there is a difference in the true tour products to retail. I have found that the prototype and never released products are superior to the released retail items, but there is little difference in a tour item and its retail counterpart. For instance, the D4 is a superior driver to the D2 that was released to the public. The F3-05 is a superior fairway club to the 906F2 that was the retail release, the 970 was superior to the 975 and PT products of their time. I have a tour issue 503H that has far less offset and a square face vs the retail version. The Tour Vokey wedges i have seem to spin more than a retail, and if you see them side by side, there are noticable differences. I had a D2 Tour Issue and a Retail version and there were no noticable performance differences. Again, when i take any retail club head to head with the same club in Tour i dont think i could tell the differences. From my experience the tour products are "better", but you are not comparing apples to apples.[/quote] That's all opinion though, I'm sure there are many players that like the D2 better than the D4. The F3-05 is a completely different club but IMO was not a club made for your average golfer. As far as the 970...the grey head model was nearly identical to the 975 IMO and the silver head model I hit was better for me simply because it had a better shaft than the stock S300 that came with the PT. But I'm not sure the 970 silver head was better than the PT. And how can the 503 be closed? Its an iron hybrid...although I have never seen one with less offset. [/quote] I own both the silver and grey versions of the 970. They're identical apart from the finish. Both are superior to the 975F. If you sat the grey 970 next to an equivalent 975F you'd see the difference. The 15° 970 is around the same size as a 20.5° 975F, though more pear-shaped. The relative size makes a big difference in how the club feels and the resulting ballflight. The PT and 970 are a closer comparison, but IMO, the ballflight from the 970 is lower for the stated loft (which IMO is better). From recollection, the F3-05 I had was slightly larger than the 906F2, but pretty close performance wise. Graphics wise it resembled the 904F (which IIRC was the preceding model, which makes sense when in early prototype form) I agree with JHR comparing prototypes to clubs that make it to production is not apples to apples, for example IMO the 975F was a larger, more forgiving design which didn't sell well as it wasn't forgiving enough for the weekend golfer, given this had Titleist released the 970 instead it would've flopped as a retail club. As for the putters and wedges, these are customized for each tour player. The most popular designs/grinds are built into later models (e.g. the 'M' grind on lob wedges), just like the loft/lie/length for the irons and woods is designed to fit the average golfer. Titleist tour/prototype products are not 'better' but do fit some golfers more than the retail offerings, however obviously some of the prototypes don't have sufficiently broad appeal to make them economically viable for retail release, others do and end up as the next product release. Excluding prototypes, hand stamped putters and hand ground wedges, the retail product produced by Titleist is identical to the same products used by the tour players.

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  20. Elektrostal

    In 1938, it was granted town status. [citation needed]Administrative and municipal status. Within the framework of administrative divisions, it is incorporated as Elektrostal City Under Oblast Jurisdiction—an administrative unit with the status equal to that of the districts. As a municipal division, Elektrostal City Under Oblast Jurisdiction is incorporated as Elektrostal Urban Okrug.

  21. Elektrostal

    Elektrostal, city, Moscow oblast (province), western Russia.It lies 36 miles (58 km) east of Moscow city. The name, meaning "electric steel," derives from the high-quality-steel industry established there soon after the October Revolution in 1917. During World War II, parts of the heavy-machine-building industry were relocated there from Ukraine, and Elektrostal is now a centre for the ...

  22. Elektrostal, Moscow Oblast, Russia

    Elektrostal Geography. Geographic Information regarding City of Elektrostal. Elektrostal Geographical coordinates. Latitude: 55.8, Longitude: 38.45. 55° 48′ 0″ North, 38° 27′ 0″ East. Elektrostal Area. 4,951 hectares. 49.51 km² (19.12 sq mi) Elektrostal Altitude.