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‘Isolated, Antisocial and Afraid of People’: Mike Patton Is Finally Ready to Talk About Last Year

By Kory Grow

To the surprise of everyone on his team, Mike Patton   wants  to talk about how his life derailed over the last few years. “It’s funny because my manager and publicist were like, ‘Do you want to talk about mental health [in an interview]?’” he says. “’They’re gonna ask you these questions. We can say no.’ And I’m like, ‘No. Let them ask what they want. I got nothing [to hide].’ It actually helps to talk about this shit, you know?”

Now that Dead Cross , the hardcore-punk supergroup he joined in 2016, are gearing up to release a second album, he’s ready to open up. And when you ask just how the record came together, he just laughs. “Oh, boy,” he says. “How much time you got?”

The band, whose last release was a 2020 cover of Black Flag’s “Rise Above,” has been trying to rise above ever since. First, guitarist Michael Crain, who also plays in Retox, was diagnosed with Covid and later advanced cancer. (He has since gone into remission.) The cancer scare   inspired him to write a series of devastating riffs as a means of catharsis   that he recorded with his Dead Cross bandmates, bassist Justin Pearson (also of Retox and the Locust) and drummer Dave Lombardo (Suicidal Tendencies, Misfits, formerly of Slayer.)

Patton recorded his vocals alone at his home studio, which wouldn’t be a big deal if he hadn’t been diagnosed with agoraphobia during the pandemic. That issue came to a head last fall when his bands Faith No More and Mr. Bungle hoped to return to the road and he realized he couldn’t leave the house, citing “mental health reasons” for the groups’ cancellations. In April, the Locust drummer and Dead Cross’ original vocalist Gabe Serbian died, though a cause of death has yet to be released.

Despite these hardships, the group moved forward with Dead Cross II . “The music was there, and the drive was there,” Patton says, his voice sounding upbeat and energetic. “And after what Crain had been through, it’s like, ‘Hey, we got to do this.’ It’s really kind of no question of whether or not to continue.”

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The album, due Oct. 28, has the same fury of its predecessor with all the spasmodic, head-turning weirdness Patton fans expect. The vocalist whispers, shouts, and screams, trading vocals with Pearson, on songs about gun control (“Christian Missile Crisis”), loving someone so much “that I could shit” (“Love Without Love”), and how humanity is its own worst enemy (lead single “Reign of Error”). Along the way, Patton, in typically violent bursts, namechecks Billy Joel, Vince Neil, and Chi Pig, the late frontman for Canadian punks SNFU. Like Patton himself, the album is utterly unpredictable.

Patton is still unsure whether Dead Cross will tour, given his uncomfortableness around touring. He’ll attempt life on the road in December with a couple of dates with Mr. Bungle, if his mental health allows. Right now, Patton is taking everything day by day and is surprisingly candid when talking about his struggles.

How did you decide to move forward with Dead Cross II ? The other guys started recording it pre-pandemic. But our guitar player got Covid and then got diagnosed with cancer. What do you even say about that? It’s like, “Jesus Christ.” I thought, “OK, well, let’s shelve this for a while until … ” But man, he was an absolute trouper. And he said, “No, I need to make this record. It’s going to heal me. It’s going to make me feel better. It’s going to be my cure in a way.” And goddamn it, he was right. And he beat it. And then I was going through some shit, too — not to skirt that — so basically, this record took way longer than it should have.

When Faith No More and Mr. Bungle canceled their concerts, you released a statement citing problems with your mental health. Can you talk about what you were going through? It’s still going on — but it’s better. [ Pauses ]. It’s easy to blame it on the pandemic. But I’ll be honest, man: At the beginning of the pandemic, I was like, “This is fucking great. I can stay home and record.” I’ve got a home studio. So I was like, “Yeah, what’s the big deal?” And then something clicked, and I became completely isolated and almost antisocial [and] afraid of people.

That sort of anxiety, or whatever you want to call it, led to other issues, which I choose not to discuss. But I got some professionals helping me, and now I’m feeling better and getting closer to diving back in. Towards the end of the year, I’ll be doing my first shows in, like, two years, which is the longest time since I started doing this, that I’ve been out of the game.

When you say you had other issues, do you mean substances? Alcohol? It was a little bit of everything. But mostly, in my experience, it was mostly mental. I saw some therapists and all that stuff, which is the first time I ever had to do that in my life. And they basically diagnosed me as having agoraphobia; like, I was afraid of people. I got freaked out by being around people. And maybe that was because I spent two years basically indoors during Covid. I don’t know. Maybe it reinforced feelings that I already had. But just knowing about it, talking about it, really helped. And we’ll see how it goes in December.

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At what point did you realize, “I have a problem”? Right around the time that Faith No More was about to go back on the road. That’s when I kind of lost it, and it was ugly and not cool. A few days before we were supposed to go on the road. I told the guys, “Hey man, I don’t think I can do it.” Somehow my confidence was broken down. I didn’t want to be in front of people, which is weird because I spent half of my life doing that.

It was very hard to explain. And there were some broken feelings on both sides about it, but it’s what I had to do. Because otherwise something really bad could have happened.

Had you been rehearsing with Faith No More? Nope. It was right before our first rehearsal, and I just freaked out. I just said, “I can’t do it.” They had been rehearsing so [ pauses ] If I were them I’d be really pissed off at me. And they were. And they probably still are. But it’s just about being true to yourself and knowing what your limits are. And I knew that if I kept pushing, it could have been some sort of disastrous result. It was just like, “Goddamn it. Maybe I don’t need to do this. Even though I agreed to do it, and it’s gonna bum a lot of people out. I gotta take care of myself.” So I’m getting better at that.

Where do things stand with Faith No More now? Radio silence. [ Laughs ]. I don’t know. We may reschedule stuff; we may not. I’ll just leave it at that. It’s a little confusing and complicated. So if we do, we do. If we don’t, that’s cool, too.

“I got freaked out by being around people. And maybe that was because I spent two years basically indoors during Covid.”

How do you feel about being around people now? Did you want the Dead Cross guys in the room with you when you recorded? I recorded all that stuff by myself. [ Laughs ] So I don’t know but I’m feeling better and feeling more secure and feel like my confidence is coming back. And now I gotta dip my toe back in the water at some point and just see how it goes. So that will be in December with Bungle in South America.

Do you have a plan for how you’re going to feel ready to perform again? Keep doing what I’m doing. Keep seeing who I’m seeing and listening and just trying to stay grounded and not freak out. That’s the plan.

What keeps you grounded? My dogs keep me completely at peace. And my garden; that really helps. And also the help that I’m getting, like, psychotherapy, psychiatrists, all that stuff. Even though it can be labor-some, I know that it’s helping me. And then also AA, I gotta admit, really is helpful.

I’ve always admired AA’s “serenity prayer.” It felt especially important during lockdown like, “OK, this is what I can change. This is what I don’t have control over.” Yeah, that’s a great thing. Even during the pandemic, it was like going to online meetings instead of in-person, that shit still works. It’s all about the ritual of it. There’s some amount of it that gets repetitive, but the more that you do it, the deeper it goes. That’s what all my friends tell me, so…

I’m sure having a routine, like making albums, helps. Oh, for sure. But those also have some downsides meaning I’ll get back into bad habits, when I’m doing that kind of stuff [and] when I’m working the way that I used to work. So I’m changing the way that I work a little bit not so manic and obsessive and just letting it come when it comes.

You mean that in the past you’ve felt like you’ve had to push the muse to make music? Yeah, exactly. [Now I realize], “Hey, it doesn’t have to happen tonight. It can happen tomorrow, or the next day or the next day.” And the only pressure that’s being applied to me is by me. When you realize that sometimes you’re your own worst enemy, if you could come to grips with that, then things open up way easier and less pressurized.

“I’ve replaced two singers in two different bands in my life, and both of them are dead. What am I supposed to make of that? It’s a hard thing to digest.”

Do you have anyone helping you out when you’re creating? Not when I’m recording, no. I record alone. I have an engineer if I need him, but normally I can do it myself. That’s cool. But like, for the rest of the time, I do have support.

You told Rolling Stone at the beginning of the pandemic that you were working on several projects. Was Dead Cross just one of those? Yeah. That one was done almost a year ago. It’s coming out now, which is wild. But yeah, I got a couple of things going now that I’m really excited about and they’re a complete detour from what I’ve done in my past. But that’s all I can tell you.

What could “a complete detour” possibly mean for you? Haven’t you done everything? Trust me, it’s different. And it’s really cool and very exciting. But we made an agreement — at least for this first project — to not talk about it, so I can’t tell you what exactly what it is. But to me, it’s completely invigorating and came along right at the right time. This is what I needed.

At the moment, though, you’ve got this Dead Cross album coming out. What is it about heavy music that still attracts you? Well, that depends on what you mean by heavy music? You mean, like, loud, aggressive shit?

Yes. I don’t know. It’s in my blood. With Dead Cross in particular, I’d never been in a straight-up hardcore punk band like that before; I always leaned more on the metal side. So to me it was really attractive.

When Gabe quit [in 2016] — rest in peace, by the way — Dave [Lombardo] texted me and said, “I know you’re gonna say no. But might you be interested in something like this?” And I immediately said, “Absolutely 100 percent. Let’s go.” It just made sense at the time. Like this project I can’t tell you about, I didn’t seek it out. It just happened. I guess maybe I’m an opportunist in that way. It’s not like I conceive all of these things; they happen around me. And then I go, “Oh, maybe I can jump in that pool? Or maybe not.” That’s just the way my mind works.

What made you want to do another Dead Cross album in particular? Well, because the first one was so fucking good. We had such a good time when we toured, and it worked. And there are many other projects that I’ve done in a recording studio that maybe worked as a record, but we didn’t tour; you didn’t develop a camaraderie, a sense of team. With Dead Cross, it did. And it just made me think, “Yeah, this is something that I got to keep doing.” And when they started recording, and they were sending me stuff, I was like, “Oh, God. This is amazing.” And it’s different. It’s a little more nuanced. It’s slightly more melodic. And there’s more, I think, dynamism in it. And that’s right up my alley.

You were friends with Gabe and I’m sure his shook everybody up. How did his death affect Dead Cross now? Was it hard to want to release this album? I still can’t believe he’s gone. I don’t know how the other guys really reacted to it, other than the fact that when something like that happens, it’s not easy. And there’s no clear emotion to come through. Meaning you’re sad. You’re bummed. You’re angry , and at times even, like, resentful. When that kind of deaths happens, nobody saw it coming. Nobody.

We all had mixed emotions. But the main one was love. We love the guy and personally, I had a few different projects that I wanted to work with him as a drummer. He’s an insane drummer, like, one of the greats in my opinion. And we’d never got to do it. And that’s one thing that I’ll always look back on. Like, goddamn it.

And there’s plenty of other things. To be honest, I’ve replaced two singers in two different bands in my life, and both of them are dead . What am I supposed to make of that? It’s a hard thing to digest.

Considering that and Michael Crain’s cancer, it’s a bold thing to move forward. There was no question: We’re doing this. It was more so that we didn’t talk about it. We just did it. So I think there’s a group mentality there.

“[Touring] is not a matter of ‘want’; it’s a matter of, ‘Can I?'”

I like some of the risks you took on the album, like whispering on “Love Without Love.” You don’t hear that too much in hardcore. Yep. And that’s sort of the point. “Hey, where can we take this?” Like, “Where do you go from 100 miles an hour to 30 and then still make you want to be in the car?”

And in the same song you say, “I love you so much,” which isn’t very punk rock, but end the line with “that I could shit.”  I’ve been saying that my whole life. That was just a normal thing for me. That’s my vernacular.

Did you sing everything on the new album? No. I would say about half of them are JP [Justin Pearson]. If you listen closely, you can really tell, because he’s got this crazy high screaming voice. And I knew that he had that from the get-go. I toured with the Locust, and I’ve been friends with them for years. One regret that I have about our first record was that we didn’t use his voice enough. Like, it’s a total weapon to have in our arsenal. So when I was writing the lyrics I was very conscious of, “OK, wait, that’s for him. That’s for me.” It’s a ping-pong kind of vocal approach. And I think we did pretty good.

I’ve heard you do a lot of different voices, so I wasn’t sure. I can’t quite do what he does. It’s different. And having that dual vocal approach is super powerful. I loved that about a bunch of bands, but the first one that comes to mind is Suicidal Tendencies. Think about a song like “Suicide’s an Alternative.” It’s just back and forth. I love that. I naturally have a deeper voice than [JP] does. I was just like, “Do you and I’ll do me, and I’ll counter it.” I think we worked that very well on this record.

You wrote the lyrics to “Reign of Error,” right? That has a similar theme to “Christian Missile Crisis,” since you’re singing, “We’re the problem.” Duuuh. I’m not saying anything that we don’t know.

On “Strong and Wrong,” you sing, “Time to wake up and puke,” and you make “puke” really sound like vomiting. Does it hurt to sing like that? Oh, hell no. But that came from personal experience because one day — and I don’t know why — the first thing I did was just like “Oh, ah, [ puke sound ].” No reason, no booze, nothing. I just, like, woke up and puked. And so I wrote it down.

Do you know who was really good at puking on cue? Gabe Serbian. He was amazing. I remember watching the Locust when we were on tour with them with my band Fantômas. He would do a drum fill and puke in the middle of the fill and then still make the next downbeat. Like, all these drums, blech , [ drumming sound ]. It was absolutely impressive. He was a pro.

Do you foresee touring with Dead Cross? We’ll see. Who knows? I gotta get my feet wet first, but, but at some point, I’d love to. I really would.

I’m sure it’s all just step by step with you. Yeah, we’ll see. But I would pretty much count on it. At some point. I don’t know when. But the record’s too good. I want to play it live. I really do. I know those guys do, too.

It sounds like you still want to do perform live, but it just was not working out at that time. It’s not a matter of “want”; it’s a matter of, “Can I?” And that’s what I’ve got to figure out. I think I will in time. And yeah, we’ll take it, like you said, step by step.

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Faith No More (founded 1981) is an American rock band from San Francisco, California, U.S. Credited for inventing the alternative metal genre.

Faith No More’s original line-up consisted of Billy Gould on bass, Mike Bordin on drums, Mike “The Man” Morris as vocalist, and keyboardist Wade Worthington, under the name Sharp Young Men. The band’s genesis is characterised by an inconsistent line-up and

Shortly after Morris suggested a name change to “Faith In No Man” but settled on “Faith. No Man” for the release of their first single “Quiet in Heaven/Song of Liberty” in 1982. Worthington departed the group and was replaced by Roddy Bottum, only for Bottum, Gould and Bordin to leave the band and start another with the name Faith No More.

The band’s particular sound is a conglomeration of many genres, combing heavy metal with funk, including progressive rock elements to create atmosphere, as well as some strong hip-hop vibes. Faith No More have acknowledged Theatre of Hate, PIL and Killing Joke as early influences in their music.

The band’s first full-length album “We Care a Lot” was a struggle to record due to financial struggles and sounded underdeveloped and incoherent, however their second “Introduce Yourself” released in 1987 on Mordam Records held a lot more promise for the band’s future, attracting a limited attention on MTV.

Mike Patton, an accomplished vocalist from the band Mr. Bungle, joined the band in 1989 and within two weeks had written the lyrics for the follow-up album “The Real Thing” which received a Grammy nomination. The album featured the track “Epic” which received considerable MTV airplay, and led to impressive shows at the MTV video awards and Saturday Night Live. The subsequent tour further promoted the album which achieved platinum status in the U.S., Canada and South America.

The band’s next albums “Angel Dust” represented an experimental shift in their music, whilst its successor “King for a Day… Fool for a Lifetime” featuring the singles “Digging the Grave” and “Evidence” and became the favourite albums of the band among loyal fans. “Album of the Year” Faith No More’s sixth and most recent album signalled an 11-year hiatus for the band allowing the members to pursue their own projects. The band reformed in 2009 and have toured consistently for three years with a seventh studio album in the works.

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“Sorry it took us so long to get back here, we had to go get old.” The Faith No More reunion was nothing new by the time the band from San Francisco graced Colorado with its presence at Red Rocks. The Second Coming Tour kicked off in London over six years ago. Mike Patton and the boys saw countless countries before returning home to play The Warfield in 2010. More dates, more countries, and a new album followed, yet Colorado was still left hanging. So although it hadn’t been thirty years (as they claimed last night), they had kept their Rocky Mountain fans waiting for almost two decades. I don’t know the exact date (or venue), but I’d have to guess it was around ’97 or ’98, for the Album of the Year Tour. The last time I saw them was in San Diego with Steel Pole Bath Tub for the King for a Day Tour, so it didn’t surprise me that Mike Bordin had gone grey, or that he needed a little oxygen assistance to pound away at his kit 6,400 feet (“Dennis Hopper on drums!”), but what shocked the hell out of me was the agelessness of Mike Patton. I’ve seen the guy perform with various side-projects at various festivals through the years, but I’ve never seen him as alive as he was last night. The few technical difficulties that the band experienced were largely erased by Patton’s unbelievable vocal range. - See more at: http://ilistensoyoudonthaveto.com/2015/09/10/faith-no-more-red-rocks-09-08-15/#sthash.m323uBsp.dpuf

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The newly reunited Faith No More have returned with their classic alt-rock sound and despite several line up changes and alterations, Billy Gould and Roddy Bottum are in tow to perform to their loyal fan base with a plethora of cult hits. Hardly charismatic onstage, what they lack in showmanship they make up for in technical ability as from the first chords of 'Zombie Eaters' the band do not miss a single beat throughout.

Having enjoyed moderate chart success during their heyday, the band has a devoted fan base readymade as well as new revellers to their set. Having toured almost continuously from their incarnation in 1985 to their demise in 1998, the band are a slick performance act and never allow the pace to falter or drop off. A brilliant triple hit of their three most known singles 'Easy', 'Everything's Ruined' and 'Midlife Crisis' get the audience enthused and applauding during the mid-dip.

Now with some energy behind them, they finish on a brilliant 'Ashes To Ashes', taken from their last release 'Album of the Year'. The audience erupts in cheers and it is obvious proof that they are incredibly happy to have this band back together.

Faith No More takes 90s alternative rock and puts quite the interesting spin on it. Behind the masterful vocals of Mike Patton, the greatest vocalist of our generation, Faith No More takes the usual 90s alternative rock sound and adds in a bit of hip hop based influence and metalizes it all together for one of the most unique sounding bands of all time.

Some may look down on them for being so influential to the god-awful “rap metal” or rap influence in nu metal, but the fact that Faith No More spawned these types of bands should not be a knock on them, Faith No More has Mike Patton, other bands don’t. It’s no surprise why other bands failed.

As if it wasn’t enough to be an incredible studio vocalist, Mike Patton is able to not only pull this material off flawlessly in a live setting, but he is able to pull it of flawlessly while also unleashing bucket loads of energy. The guy was put on this earth for one reason and one reason only and that is to bring us immense joy with his unique timbre, unbelievable range and packaging that all together with unmatched energy in live performances.

Roddy's keyboard crapped out after the first song or two and they worked on it for most of the set and only got it fixed with a few songs remaining. Poor guy was clearly frustrated, and after each song the rest of the band would gather around the drum kit to decide which song to play next that didn't rely too much on the keyboard part. As a result, I think we got a slightly different set list than was intended, but band and audience took it in stride. I was hoping for a few more songs from The Real Thing and Angel Dust but the only disappointment for me was that they didn't play Zombie Eaters. I loved watching Billy Gould work his bass magic and Mike Patton can still sing scream like always. I'm super happy I finally got to see these guys play...better late than ever I guess!

Unbelievable performance by all band members, most memorably front-man Mike Patton, of course. I don't know how he can scream for 5 minutes then sing something as soft as "Easy". His voice is phenomenal and I hope I get to see them again before they (inevitably) split again. Was disappointed that the venue tried to oust us so soon after the show ended. It's widely known that the band makes an appearance after the show to meet their dedicated fans.

Great show. If you weren't there, you really missed something.

Great gig in a good venue. Sound quality was good from the seats, maybe less so at the back of the standing area. Dubioza Kolektiv were a very typical FNM support band and got the crowd down the front going. FNM started with new track, Motherf**ker, from the new album, Sol Invictus, which was superb and just continued to bang out the hits with new tracks fitting in well right until the end.

After 18 yrs. Faith no more has returned in a big, powerful new sound way! Like a fine 18yr. Aged scotch, they have just gotten better&better! It was one of, if not the, greatest concerts ive ever been to! And ive definately dont miss the new album may 18th!been to a lot!!! Dont miss em,

Faith No More's return to the Motor City was nothing short of amazing. Patton and co. played a lengthy set peppered with classics spanning their entire career, including a guest appearance by former FNM front man Chuck Mosley. Another bucket list act achieved!!! Truly spectacular...

They were awesome and really seemed happy that people came out to see them! Band was tight, Patton was money! Great set list across all albums with a good sample of the new songs as well. Great to see they are having a good time playing together after such a hiatus!

Faith no More were great, nothing else to say about it. Mike is at home in Italy, so it was fun to have him talking in Italian with the audience!

The worst was the location, a parking lot with no view of the stage... but this wasn't their fault!

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Last week we shared the news that “Epic,” “Midlife Crisis,” and “Easy” are now available in Dolby ATMOS/Spatial Audio via Apple Music, Amazon Music and TIDAL (the improved audio is already integrated in to the deluxe edition album streams on these digital service providers), now we have the first in a series of interviews with Mike Bordin, Roddy, and Bill, celebrating the anniversaries of Introduce Yourself , Album of the Year , and Angel Dust .

Watch the full first interview (on Angel Dust ) at WeAreThePit.com.

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Michael Allan "Mike" Patton (born January 27, 1968) is an American musician, singer, songwriter, actor, record producer, multi-instrumentalist and film composer, best known as the lead singer of the alternative metal band Faith No More. Patton was also the founder and lead singer of Mr. Bungle, and has played with Tomahawk, Fantômas, Lovage, The Dillinger Escape Plan, and Peeping Tom. Known for his eclectic influences and experimental projects, Patton has earned critical praise for his diverse array of vocal techniques. VVN Music found Patton possess the highest vocal range of any known singer in popular music, with a range of six octaves. He has worked as a producer or co-producer with artists such as John Zorn, Sepultura, Melvins, Melt-Banana, and Kool Keith. He co-founded Ipecac Recordings with Greg Werckman in 1999, and has run the label since. Patton's vast number of musical endeavours and constant touring have led to him being widely identified as a "workaholic".

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Mike Patton on the Future of Faith No More: ‘We Don’t Have a Plan After This Tour or This Record’

"An old man only looks to the next day," the 47-year-old Patton said. "We're old men."

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Faith No More bassist Bill Gould likes to think of the band’s new record as an aging actress.

“Sure, her body’s getting a little older, but she’s not afraid to show it; she’s still sexy,” he said during a recent interview in New York City, where the band played two sold-out shows in support of Sol Invictus , its first in 18 years released last week.

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Sol Invictus  was engineered and recorded by Gould in his studio space in Oakland in 2014 and 2015, and is being released on Reclamation Recordings, a subsidiary of Patton’s own Ipecac Recordings label.

“We’ve all kind of grown into parts where we can actually contribute now in our own capacity,” Gould said. “We all kind of got good at what we did in different ways and it all kind of helps the whole.”

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For a band that once briefly flirted with the mainstream following the success of the catchy, rap-meets-metal mega-hit “Epic,” having the freedom to dictate whether they put out a record, tour or make an appearance at this point in their lives is a top priority.

“An old man only looks to the next day,” the 47-year-old Patton said. “We’re old men.

“So what you do is, you look to the next day or the next plan, and, honestly, we don’t have a plan after this tour or this record.”

In a wide-ranging interview, Patton and Gould discussed the origins of the new album and the challenges of not being a normal band.

You’re a weird band:

Even at the height of their popularity, Gould said the band was always wary of overstaying their welcome at Slash/Warner Bros.

Gould: We were always told, “Failure is just right around the corner. You’re a weird band. You don’t make radio-friendly music and you’re not going to survive unless you keep working.”

Bordin: “You’re going to lose your house.”

Gould: I took that to heart. I totally was terrified back then.

Bordin: I wasn’t. But I took it as a threat. OK, someone’s coming after me. You do what you do, and I think that this record is the best example of doing that. We’re just being us. There’s no pretentions.

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Sol Invictus  was spearheaded by Gould who, unbeknownst to the rest of the band, had been writing and recording new material in his studio.

Patton: I didn’t bring any songs or ideas to the record on an elemental level because I didn’t know we were going to make a record. There was one night when (Gould) took me over to his house and goes, “Hey, check out this (expletive) I’m working on.” 

But he didn’t say it was Faith No More, at least I don’t remember it that way. It wasn’t predetermined. It’s not like we all sat down and went, “Let’s make a new Faith No More record.” When I heard it, I said, “You got a great new band. Who’s going to sing?” He said, “No, I want you to sing.” I’m like, “OK, who’s playing on it?” It turns out it was a Faith No More record.

Patton the Craftsman:

One of the hallmarks of Faith No More’s records has always been Patton’s unmatched voice, and Sol Invictus  is no exception. 

Patton: All I do is try and fit into whatever, and this could be Faith No More or any other thing that I’ve done. “Hey, what’s needed?” I’m like a carpenter. I see my job as that. You need some spackle? You need some venetian plaster? Do you need some help with the roof? That’s really the only way I see it. I don’t think I did anything spectacular on this record. It was what was needed.

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Gould: But what he did fit with everything else. We didn’t have to do a whole lot to it when we got it. He worked it out so that it all came together, like a craftsman. It wasn’t like, “Let’s get some ideas and fix them later and make them all fit in.” He gave us pretty close to a finished thing.

Patton: Maybe earlier in our days I had agendas like, “Oh, I got to use some weird avant-garde harmonies or whatever.” This time, no, not at all. What’s necessary, what does the music need? Very simple.

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Mike Patton opens up about agoraphobia diagnosis and mental health struggles behind Faith No More tour cancellation

"I was afraid of people"

Faith No More frontman Mike Patton  has opened up about his mental health struggles following the band’s axed tour dates.

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Last year, Mike Patton announced that all their shows had been cancelled citing mental health reasons .

“I have issues that were exacerbated by the pandemic that are challenging me right now. I don’t feel I can give what I should at this point and I am not going to give anything less than 100 percent. I am sorry to our fans and hope to make it up to you soon,” he said at the time.

Now, he has spoken at length about his mental health struggles.

“It’s still going on but it’s better,” he told Rolling Stone . “It’s easy to blame it on the pandemic. But I’ll be honest, man: At the beginning of the pandemic, I was like, ‘This is fucking great. I can stay home and record.’ I’ve got a home studio. So I was like, ‘Yeah, what’s the big deal?’ And then something clicked, and I became completely isolated and almost antisocial [and] afraid of people.”

He continued: “It was mostly mental. I saw some therapists and all that stuff, which is the first time I ever had to do that in my life. And they basically diagnosed me as having agoraphobia; like, I was afraid of people.

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“Maybe that was because I spent two years basically indoors during COVID . I don’t know. Maybe it reinforced feelings that I already had. But just knowing about it, talking about it, really helped.”

Patton is planning to tour with  Mr. Bungle in South America in December for the first time since he axed shows with them and Faith No More last year.

Speaking about the latter, he said: “That’s when I kind of lost it, and it was ugly and not cool. A few days before we were supposed to go on the road. I told the guys, ‘Hey man, I don’t think I can do it.’ Somehow my confidence was broken down. I didn’t want to be in front of people, which is weird because I spent half of my life doing that.”

As for future Faith No More shows, Patton said they were up in the air.

“I don’t know. We may reschedule stuff; we may not. I’ll just leave it at that. It’s a little confusing and complicated. So if we do, we do. If we don’t, that’s cool, too,” he added.

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Mike Patton Cancels Faith No More Tour Dates Due to Mental Health Reasons

Mike Patton has canceled upcoming tour dates for Faith No More , set to begin this Thursday in Missouri, citing mental health reasons. The dates would have marked Faith No More’s first American tour in five years. Patton has also canceled upcoming tour dates for Mr. Bungle . Read statements from Patton and the band, including impacted dates, below.

“We believe that forging ahead with these dates would have had a profoundly destructive effect on Mike, whose value to us as a brother means more to us than his job as singer,” Faith No More wrote in their statement. “He can count on our 100% support to do what he needs to do to get things right. Just as we also ask for your support right now.”

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Sorry to report that due to mental health reasons, I cannot continue with the currently scheduled Faith No More and Mr. Bungle dates. I have issues that were exacerbated by the pandemic that are challenging me right now. I don’t feel I can give what I should at this point and I am not going to give anything less than 100 percent. I am sorry to our fans and hope to make it up to you soon. The bands’ support me in this decision and we look forward to working through this in a healthy way.

Faith No More’s Billy Gould, Jon Hudson, Mike Bordin, and Roddy Bottum:

To say that we feel shattered by these cancellations would be a complete understatement. It has been a real challenge to return to this music after a 5 year absence, but we have been working hard for a few months now, and these last few rehearsals left no doubt that we were back to top form, which makes this statement very difficult to write. Coming on almost two years of pandemic and lack of work, it has been heartbreaking to give our crew the news. We consider our crew like family. And then, equally importantly, we are aware of what this means to our fans, who have been patiently supporting us—hoping, as we have, for a break in this frustrating situation. Many folks have taken isolation quite hard, and patiently waited as shows have been postponed time and time again. This will be tough for them. And yet in spite of all this, we have a family member who needs help. We believe that forging ahead with these dates would have had a profoundly destructive effect on Mike, whose value to us as a brother means more to us than his job as singer. He can count on our 100% support to do what he needs to do to get things right. Just as we also ask for your support right now. Thank you for continuing to believe in us.

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Faith No More + Mr. Bungle Cancel Tour Dates, Mike Patton to Focus on His Mental Health

Faith No More and Mr. Bungle have canceled a number of 2021 U.S. tour dates. The cancelations are due to mental health reasons, with Mike Patton explaining he is suffering from “issues that were exacerbated by the pandemic.”

Faith No More and Mr. Bungle were both scheduled to play this year’s Riot Fest around Faith No More’s September and October tour dates. Mr. Bungle were also meant to play an intimate Chicago gig after Riot Fest, but that gig has also been canceled.

“Sorry to report that due to mental health reasons, I cannot continue with the currently scheduled Faith No More and Mr. Bungle dates,” Patton explains. “I have issues that were exacerbated by the pandemic that are challenging me right now. I don’t feel I can give what I should at this point and I am not going to give anything less than 100 percent. I am sorry to our fans and hope to make it up to you soon. The bands’ support me in this decision and we look forward to working through this in a healthy way."

Faith No More also issued a statement on the canceled shows:

To say that we feel shattered by these cancellations would be a complete understatement. It has been a real challenge to return to this music after a 5 year absence, but we have been working hard for a few months now, and these last few rehearsals left no doubt that we were back to top form, which makes this statement very difficult to write. Coming on almost two years of pandemic and lack of work, it has been heartbreaking to give our crew the news. We consider our crew like family. And then, equally importantly, we are aware of what this means to our fans, who have been patiently supporting us-- hoping, as we have, for a break in this frustrating situation. Many folks have taken isolation quite hard, and patiently waited as shows have been postponed time and time again. This will be tough for them. And yet in spite of all this, we have a family member who needs help. We believe that forging ahead with these dates would have had a profoundly destructive effect on Mike, whose value to us as a brother means more to us than his job as singer. He can count on our 100% support to do what he needs to do to get things right. Just as we also ask for your support right now. Thank you for continuing to believe in us. - Bill, Jon, Mike B. & Roddy

The canceled tour dates include:

Faith No More:

Sept. 16 - Maryland Heights, Mo. @ Saint Louis Music Park Sept. 18 - Chicago, Ill. @ Riot Fest Sept. 21 - Pittsburgh, Pa. @ Stage AE Sept. 22 - Newport, Ky. @ Ovation Pavilion Sept. 24 - Kansas City, Mo. @ Grinders Sept. 25 - Indianola, Iowa @ Knotfest Oct. 10 - Sacramento, Calif. @ Aftershock Festival Oct. 15 - Las Vegas, Nev. @ T-Mobile Arena Oct. 16 - Fresno, Calif. @ Save Mart Center Oct. 18 - Oakland, Calif. @ Oakland Arena Oct. 22 - Los Angeles, Calif. @ Banc of California Stadium Oct. 23 - Los Angeles, Calif. @ Banc of California Stadium

Mr. Bungle:

Sept. 17 Chicago, Ill. @ Radius Sept. 19 Chicago, Ill. @ Riot Fest

“If I could sing through a fuckin’ mask, I’d wear one the rest of my life,” Patton told Loudwire in 2020 . “Being present, being in the moment, is hard. Based on a few things that have gone on in my life, it’s made it easier to do that. One of which is the pandemic. Wait a second, do I want to numb out? Do I want to be drunk during all of this? This is history, man! We’ve never seen anything like this and hopefully we never will again, but I wanna be here for this, I wanna experience it. As much as it sucks, living it is the most important thing. I think about that all the time.”

We’d like to commend Mike Patton for focusing on his mental health during this trying time. Stay tuned for updates on Faith No More and Mr. Bungle’s touring plans.

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WATCH: Harris meets with Ukraine’s Zelenskyy as Russia makes nuclear warning

WASHINGTON (AP) — With American support for Ukraine at a partisan crossroads, Vice President Kamala Harris on Thursday slammed suggestions that Kyiv should cede territory for the sake of peace with Moscow as “dangerous and unacceptable.”

The Democratic presidential nominee spoke alongside Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy as she unleashed the veiled criticism of Republican candidate Donald Trump’s push for Ukraine to quickly cut a deal to end the war.

Watch Harris and Zelenskyy’s remarks in the player above.

“They are not proposals for peace,” Harris said. “Instead they are proposals for surrender.”

Her comments were a reminder of the high stakes for the war effort in this year’s election. Trump, for his part, has criticized U.S. assistance for Ukraine, praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and faulted Zelenskyy for the ongoing bloodshed.

WATCH: Trump suggests Ukraine should have made concessions to Putin before Russian invasion during N.C. campaign stop

Trump said he will meet with Zelenskyy in New York on Friday after days of questions over whether the two leaders will sit down together. He rejected Harris’ criticisms and insisted that he only wants to stop the “horror show that’s gone on.”

Asked if Ukraine should give up territory, Trump said “we’ll see what happens” and “we need peace.”

Before announcing the meeting with Zelenskyy, Trump posted on social media a purported message from the Ukrainian leader asking to see him. The message, which was not confirmed by Ukrainian officials, said “we have to strive to understand each other.”

The decision to publicly disclose what appeared to be private communications, however benign their contents, was a reminder of the tension that’s been brewing between Trump and Zelenskyy.

It was a far different impression than Harris delivered on Thursday as she embraced Ukraine’s defense and outlined a broader foreign policy vision rooted in “international order, rules and norms.” Harris rejected calls for the U.S. to walk away from its global role and warned that potential aggressors could be emboldened if Putin emerges victorious.

“The United States supports Ukraine not out of charity, but because it’s in our strategic interest,” Harris said.

Zelenskyy was in Washington to present the White House and Congress with his plans for reaching an endgame in the war by improving Ukraine’s chances on the battlefield and its eventual leverage at the negotiating table. He’s pushing to lift restrictions on using long-range Western weapons to strike targets deeper in Russian territory.

No movement on this issue was evident during Zelenskyy’s visit. However, Biden announced billions of dollars more in missiles, drones, ammunition and other supplies. The weapons include an additional Patriot missile defense battery and a new shipment of glide bombs that can be deployed from Western fighter jets, increasing their strike range.

WATCH: Biden announces billions in Ukraine military aid as Zelenskyy visits White House

Biden pledged to ensure that all approved funding is disbursed before he leaves office, and he said he plans to convene a meeting with other world leaders focused on Ukraine’s defense during a visit to Germany next month.

“We stand with Ukraine, now and in the future,” Biden said alongside Zelenskyy in the Oval Office. “Russia will not prevail. Ukraine will prevail.”

Ukrainian officials are anxious to maintain good relations with whomever becomes the next president of the United States, which is its biggest and most important provider of arms, money and other support. But the effort risks slipping into the political blender of the presidential campaign, polarizing the discussion around a war that used to be a bipartisan cause célèbre in Washington.

About two thirds of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said the U.S. has a responsibility to help Ukraine, compared with one third of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, according to a Pew Research Center poll conducted in July.

Americans are also split on which presidential candidate would do a better job handling the war.  An AP-NORC poll from August  found that about one-third of Americans said they trusted Harris more, while a similar share said the same about Trump.

On Thursday, Zelenskyy found some bipartisan support as he visited Capitol Hill, where he was greeted by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Sen. Lindsay Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said Zelenskyy asked to use long-range weapons, such as British-supplied Storm Shadow missiles or U.S.-made ATACMS, for “maximum benefit to bring Putin to the table” and increase Ukraine’s negotiating position.

“If we don’t make that fundamental choice this week, I think the outcome for Ukraine is dire,” Graham said.

Administration officials have been skeptical of Zelenskyy’s request, believing the weapons could have limited benefits but increase the risk of escalating the conflict. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat, said senators gave Zelenskyy advice on how to persuade Biden to loosen restrictions.

WATCH: Zelenskyy renews plea for long-range U.S. weapons after Russian strikes kill dozens

Rep. Jim Himes, another Connecticut Democrat and the ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said Zelenskyy wanted “more, faster.”

“He was politely frustrated,” Himes said, and specifically requested more Patriot missile defenses as Russia escalates strikes on Ukraine’s cities and energy grid before the winter.

Zelenskyy faces a much more tense situation with Trump. The latest round of sniping started on Sunday, when  The New Yorker published an interview  with Zelenskyy in which he criticized JD Vance, Trump’s running mate, as “too radical” for suggesting that Ukraine needs to give up some territory to end the war. Zelenskyy also dismissed Trump’s boasts that he could quickly negotiate a solution, saying “my feeling is that Trump doesn’t really know how to stop the war even if he might think he knows how.”

On the same day, Zelenskyy toured a Pennsylvania factory producing munitions for the war. He was joined by Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro, a top surrogate for Harris, and Republicans criticized the visit as a political stunt in a political battleground state.

House Speaker Mike Johnson demanded that Zelenskyy fire the Ukrainian ambassador to the U.S., alleging that the tour was “designed to help Democrats and is clearly election interference.” The Louisiana Republican didn’t attend any of lawmakers’ meetings with Zelenskyy on Thursday.

Trump complained this week that Zelenskyy is “making little nasty aspersions toward your favorite president, me.” He also described the Ukrainian leader as “the greatest salesman on Earth” for securing U.S. support, and he complained that “we continue to give billions of dollars to a man who refuses to make a deal” to end the war. Trump’s message dovetails with Russian propaganda that claims intransigence by Kyiv — not aggression from Moscow — has prolonged the bloodshed.

Max Bergmann, director of the Europe, Russia and Eurasia program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Zelenskyy is in a “no-win situation” where he “can’t even visit a U.S. weapons manufacturer to say thank you without being attacked.”

Trump was impeached during his first term over asking Zelenskyy for help investigating Biden, then a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, at a time when the Ukrainian leader was seeking support from Washington. Now there are fears that Trump would cut off or add strings to U.S. military assistance if he returned to the White House.

Charles Kupchan, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said Trump is not wrong to want a negotiated end to the war. However, he said, Trump risks undermining Ukraine by enabling Putin to make more gains on the battlefield.

“Neither Ukraine nor Russia is going to win this war, and the sooner that the parties try to end this, the better,” Kupchan said. “Where Trump goes off course, and where Biden and Harris have a much stronger argument, is that we get to that point not by throwing Ukraine under the bus but by giving them sufficient support so they can block further Russian aggression.”

Associated Press writers Aamer Madhani and Michelle Price in New York and Ellen Knickmeyer, Lisa Mascaro, Mary Clare Jalonick, Kevin Freking, Steven Groves and Amelia Thomson-Deveaux in Washington contributed to this report.

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