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Tony Mb wrote: ↑ Aug 21, 2018, 4:40 AM I think the speed is simply too low (I think my ST1 could be a bit faster).
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Blizzard wrote: ↑ Aug 21, 2018, 7:13 AM This Trek is a very nice bike. The lamp in particular is an advantage. Well, that speed was to be expected with the mid-engine. The previous model was no different in this. Greetings, Henk
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Tomasj wrote: ↑ Aug 21, 2018, 6:03 PM Any motorcycle has a mid-engine with chain drive, and they can sometimes reach speeds of > 300 km/h
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Martin wrote: ↑ Aug 21, 2018, 7:01 PM Edit: on the Trek the lighting switches on automatically, the daytime running lights. Does the headlight automatically turn on at dusk (low beam, so to speak) to activate the high beam with the switch on the handlebars?
Martin wrote: ↑ Aug 21, 2018, 7:01 PM The level of support and speed also struck me as positive for a mid-engine like this. Went to 42km/h with reasonable ease. I am therefore surprised that Stromeur achieved a speed of 45.2 km/h, even for a mid-engine...
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Ferrari calls it Rosso Corsa. Porsche has Guards. Prince even wrote a song about a Corvette in the color. Red. It’s the color of speed. And passion. After spending an evening with Trek’s product team and a little spin, I’ve got no doubt that they had a little of both in mind when developing the new Trek Super Commuter+ 8S.
No, we’re not going automotive here at Gearist and Trek isn’t either but they’re making a big push to replace at least one of those cars in your driveway with their flagship e-bike. Don’t have a car to replace? Then say hello to a viable option to the headaches of mass transit and goodbye to the downsides of a slow, sweaty bike commute.
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E-bikes continue to grow in popularity, and there is no mistaking their practicality for the commute to work or running errands by bike. Along with better technologies, these e-bikes are also starting to look better too. A good example is Trek’s new Super Commuter+ 8S which combines decent looks (for an e-bike of course) with a boost of speed and improved usability. Like many others, Trek looked to Bosch to supply the electric oomph, pairing a 500Wh PowerPack battery with the 350W Performance Speed motor, and a Purion display showing battery level, range, speed & more. The bike’s motor can get you up to 28mph (45km/h) and its battery is even protected by a special downtube armor plate. Integrated fenders are a sensible touch, with the rear fender even building in integrated pannier support to haul your bags on the way to the office…
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The alloy frame with its integrated downtube battery gets paired with a thru-axle carbon fork. Trek chose a Shimano Deore SLX rear derailleur to manage the 1×11 drivetrain and wide 11-42 cassette. Deore hydraulic brakes keep you from getting too rowdy as you zip around town. Predictably, Bontrager components finish out the stem, bars, saddle & seatpost. Formula wheels with double walled rims and sealed bearings pair with fat 2.4″ Schwalbe Super Moto-X 650b tires for durable rolling stock with ample grip to lay down the pedal assist.
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The Super Commuter+ 8S is available only in red, comes in four sizes (45, 50, 55 & 60cm), and retails for a cool $5000. Only available through your local Trek dealers, this one will add a little Get Up N’ Go to your otherwise staid commute.
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Oh, cool bike! I remember when this bike was first launched in 2013 and was called the Specialized Turbo. Better late than never big T.
@Papi, oh WOW, you’re right. Its exactly the same as the Turbo. Its red! Can you please tell us all the other similarities to the Turbo? (deleted)
I am guessing that when the ebikes lose the legal loophole they currently enjoy and are forced to have licensure and registration like other mopeds and motorcycles the gbike makers will swoop in and take over the market.
Why are you guessing that they will lose the “loophole”? And, what “loophole” is that? This bike is purely pedal assist and it would be difficult for the average person to convert to non-pedal assist where it could technically fall under moped/motorcycle law depending on the state.
Unlike many e-bikes, commuter ebikes should really be applauded and supported by both cyclists and non-cyclist alike. Over time, they have the ability to allow many more people the opportunity to conveniently commute with greater ease and safety.
@JBikes: all good and valid points. Unfortunately some people just insist on trolling and hating on ebikes. Maybe they just don’t like fun or want to be elitist and not welcome newcomers into the sport?
Worthwhile info from the other BR post on the updated Specialized Turbo:
“From a federal standpoint, both the Class 1 E-Bike (20mph max assist) and Class 3 E-Bike (28mph max assist) are legal and considered a bicycle, so long as you have to pedal for the motor to kick in. AKA, “pedal assist”. But then you’ve got state and city laws that might vary. Some places restrict the top assist speed, and some restrict where you can ride it. Specialized is working with the industry to more clearly define what types of e-bikes there are (a Class 2 E-Bike has a 20mph max assist, but has a throttle and doesn’t require any pedaling). For now, local laws are going to vary, but rest easy knowing that the industry is working hard to provide standardized guidelines. You can keep up with the latest legislation and see charts showing the wheres, whats and hows at PeopleForBikes.org. As far as Specialized’s opinion goes, they’re bicycles, and they say there seeing a lot of very positive momentum in most every state…and even in New York City, which currently bans any sort of e-bike.”
It is not a “loophole”; it is a straightforward loophole. The loophole is that most states require mopeds, scooters and motorized bicycles to have special plates, be registered and naturally they cannot ride on sidewalks or bike paths and bike lanes. The “ebike” marketing nomenclature as opposed to “moped” has allowed some bike manufacturers to push these things as hard as they can into the same category as bicycles rather than motorized vehicles where “gbikes”, mopeds etc typically function and are allowed to ride. That’s the loophole, which some municipalities are already starting to close.
Listen here, your concise and logical comment has no place here on Bikerumor’s comments. It is only to detract and criticize…
I kinda hate the very idea of e-bikes, but totally agree that’s the best looking one I’ve seen so far. Seems like a good tire choice too.
I was thinking exactly the same thing… Looks good and awesome tire choice
The “loophole” is pedal-assist.
I think that once you recognize that, pedal-assist or not, these are electric mopeds, you can begin to see where they do and do not belong. Search Wikipedia for “moped” and you’ll see what I mean.
For the urban commuter these make a lot of sense. If my commute was even ten miles each way I’d be seriously considering one.
I just don’t agree with the term “loophole”. Most state laws specifically address pedal assisted e-bikes and regulate them specifically as bikes, often with limits on assist power and speed at which assist stops.
Since most laws are specifically addressing this, I fail to see how this is a “loophole”. It is almost the opposite of a loophole and being addressed clearly by law. Now whether people choose to modify and break the law is a completely different matter.
Furthermore – outside of Europe, many countries again have laws specifically tailored to electric assist bicycles where the assist only occurs while pedaling. Again, hard to say its a loophole when it is specifically addressed in law.
correction…should say “outside of the United States”
It’s not being adequately addressed in the USA. The companies who profit by selling these things are driving for a certain extra-lax regulatory outcome but it is clear to many others not blinded by this factor that straightforwardly regulating these in with the appropriate g-powered mopeds and motorcycles makes a lot more sense. Therefore, it is most definitely a loophole, that I hope will close before these clowns zip through crowds on ebikes and mow down a bunch of pedestrians and cyclists. I have already observed several close calls in my city – terrifying. I’m all for these things being used – only on the roads and with a license plate.
Can you name a state where it is explicitly legal for anyone, ebike or not, to zip through pedestrian crowds or even large groups of casual cyclists in an unsafe manner? Few states even allow bicycles on sidewalks sans for children, hence regular or e, they are confined to the road by law. So, there is already laws in most states to address the behavior you are afraid of…additional laws aren’t needed for that issue.
Yes, many states do allow bicycles on sidewalks. An absurd entry from start to finish. Can you name a state where it is explicitly legal for anyone on a moped or a motorcycle to ride on bike paths and in bicycle lanes?
I think you understand where I was coming from with that. I haven’t looked too far into motorcycle licensing rules, but it seems that by being e-assist instead of 100% motor powered many of these bikes can ignore that.
It is true that e-assist bikes do have their own regulations to worry about but those are minimal, namely the limited speed and maximum assist power. Even the latter is pretty lax as in a “turbo” mode some ebikes are still powerful enough to flip the rider over the back.
Europe has way more experience with ebikes and you don’t see them calling ebikes “motos” or “mopeds”. They refer to them as bicycles or ebikes. Stop trying to fit them into some old classification (like mopeds) when they are more-or-less a new technology that is completely unlike ANY moped I’ve ever seen.
Many people use them across a broad section of society for a wide variety of purposes and needs. I’ve ridden a huge variety of ebikes and yes they are not a bicycle in the traditional sense. But they are waaaaaaayy closer to bicycles than mopeds in function and purpose.
28mph and can even think to call it a bike? When I was a kid mopeds were governed at 25 mph.
Could you pedal your moped at all…? Let alone up a hill?
I’ve gone 35mph on my Mtb and I’ve gone even faster on my road bike…
Last I checked, nobody is calling ebikes, bikes. they are called ebikes. Although not a bike, they are way closer to bicycles than they are to mopeds
No matter how much you are getting paid to advertise these motorcycles on this “bike” website, we are not interested and do not appreciate this being here.
Just have them buy an ad and stick it on the side like the rest.
^this guy doesn’t speak for all of us. Carry on.
Don’t presume to speak for everyone that visits the site. Personally I find this very interesting and appropriate. It’s pretty easy to skip the articles that don’t interest you.
I agree that seeing what is new out there with E-Bikes are very interesting and should continue. I have test rode some and to be honest, they are a ton of fun.
Keep up the good work Bike Rumor.
Another vote for continued coverage of ebikes.
I may or may note get one, but I like knowing about developments in the area.
Stop trolling elitist. You don’t speak for me!
The “loophole” is that these are unregistered mopeds that are getting to ride on bike paths and bike lanes by the clever marketing trick of being called “ebikes” rather than motorized vehicles. This will end eventually when they run over some cyclists and plow under pedestrians. Then even dumb city govts will realize “Hey these things are just mopeds with electric rather than gas engines, maybe they should be treated exactly the same way”.
Currently have no need for pedal assist as i am a bad ass and in my 30s . Ask me in 30 yrs if i want it to keep riding to work all year round and my opinion will likely change. Also cargo bikes with pedal assist are great for a car replacement and the less pollution producing shit boxes on the road the better.
@dave, I started list for you before I realized you were being sarcastic. I spent a lot of time on the list, so I’ll post it anyways. Also, name calling hurts, even if it’s preceded by #.
Samesies List: Specialized Turbo and Trek Super Commuter
1) Both bikes have battery integrated into downtube 2) Both bikes have just one waterbottle mounting location. 3) Both bikes have electric motors 4) Both bikes have left AND right grips 5) Neither bike is made by Moots, and that’s fine. 6) Each bike has more than 60 spokes. Did you know that some bikes only have like 6 spokes? Total. That’s not much. 7) Both bikes have a 28mph speed limit. Well, I guess you could pedal faster than that, but the motor only works to 28mph. 8) Neither bike has a front derailleur. That’s BS. I want ALL THE SPEEDS. 9) Two disc brakes per bike. Samesies. 10) Neither is a fixed gear. Sorry if you like fixed gears. 11) Both bikes have black rims. Black rims are cool. 12) Both come with kickstands. Kickstands that are probable inadequate for the weight of the bike, but that’s just speculation, so we’ll leave it at both have kickstands. 13) Both are targeted at consumers who think they want to ride a bike, but don’t want to pedal that hard, and still want to go fast. And also have five thousand extra dollars. 14) Each bike includes a battery charger. Can’t say that about a lot of bikes. 15) Black seatposts, saddles, stems. Samesies. 16) They both include pedals. That seems rare at a bike at this pricepoint. 17) Slick tires. Samesies 18) No suspension. Samesies. 19) Neither are currently being raced at the Giro d’Italia or Tour of California 20) Both have been featured on BikeRumor.
That’s some good stuff right there. 🙂
Damn Specialized! Just launched a front suspension Turbo as I’m makin my list. SO I guess these bikes aren’t that similar after all. Whomp whomp.
Looks like a cool design, but as an electric car owner, my first thought is how much it will be to replace the battery when the time comes, and whether or not a replacement battery will even be available 5 years from now.
Battery standardization across vendors would be a huge long-term boon to this business.
Currently, replacement Turbo batteries are $800 (for their highest rated one)
I think that eMTB’s are quite dumb. But this is an ebike that absolutely makes sense to me! I hope they sell piles of them and get people out of their cars and onto almost bikes.
I’d love to own that thing. It would be awesome to cruise into the office at 28mph! Better than paying insurance and gas for a moto.
My daily commute is almost 60km and 1,000m of climbing (so 30km/500m each way). Even in my 30’s, I don’t have the energy to do that all 5 days of the week and still function at 100% in the office. I’m SUPER excited about this bike from Trek.
Unfortunately, being in Australia, these speed-pedelecs are currently illegal 🙁 I’m really hoping that this changes in the near future as Sydney has huge traffic issues.
@coreying, what makes you say these bikes are “illegal” in Australia? I live in Hobart and see a few of the Specialized Turbo bikes around – and they are currently listed on the Specialized website for Australia.
Only 25 km/h 250w pedal assist bikes are allowed in Australia. The 45 km/h 350w bikes are not legal… I really hope someone is working to change this though, cause I want this bike!
After enough eFreds get killed in traffic all bikes will be viewed as motor vehicles by the authorities and treated as such, requiring registration, insurance, lighting and helmets. A perfect example of “this is why we can’t have nice things”. Enjoy the Wild West while we have it, it won’t last. History has shown, once you put a motor on it the tax man want’s a cut, especially in the days of waning gas-tax revenue…and yes, I prefer the sport to be elitist and unwelcoming, cyclists only get away with stuff (in the US) because they’re a small minority of road traffic. If I had to obey every traffic signal, road sign, have lights/insurance/helmet and share a bike path with a million other cyclists I’d rather drive.
I think you are the reason I get yelled at and/or cut off even as a law abiding, courteous cyclist. Being a small minority makes your infractions all the more visible and pronounced, not less so. People tend to see the outlier.
“this is why we can’t have nice things”…the irony.
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WhiteMountainsNH
- Apr 6, 2018
Hello Forum Members! This is my first post, glad to have found you all -- I've been researching e-bikes and reading forum posts and reviews and am starting to narrow in on the Trek Super Commuter + 8s -- My LBS in Maine brought one in for me and I will be going for a test ride tomorrow. Here's my quick story and situation: Road cyclist from coast of Maine who has moved to the White Mountains of New Hampshire. This is going from riding along paved small rolling hills roads along the Maine coast to New Hampshire paved mountain roads and large, and very large hills, as well as hard packed dirt roads, bumpy farm roads and rail trails and this can all be on one ride in northern New Hampshire! I've gotten older (59) and am now dealing with some spinal arthritis and cervical spine arthritis. I can't keep up anymore, and found myself last year avoiding many of our club rides due to hills and length of ride. Also, I would spend the day after the ride in body recovery mode. So, a friend from Nova Scotia with similar arthritic issues has enthusiastically recommended an e-bike. Here's my thoughts, I'm very curious for your input: 1. I will not be using this for commuting. I am retired from Corporate America, manage our 3 Airbnb properties and need my car when I need to go to clean/prep/meet guests. 2. I will be using this for club rides (up to 45 miles long) and some possible light touring, such as the bike trails around New England, maybe Quebec but I don't know if they allow e-bikes on the trail (have not researched that yet). 3. I think I would be better off with nubbier tires -- the SC tires look really too smooth for me when I think of some of the non-paved roads that I might go on (by the way - that my Specialized Expert Diverge handled really well). What would you recommend? 4. I did try the Trek Powerfly (I believe that's the name) and I thought it was too much mountain bike for me -- but given what I said above about possible gravel grinding, what do you think? I wonder if I am trying to turn the SC into a gravel grinder and that's not possible or a good idea. 5. Also, because our club loves doing rides that often start 1-2 hours away from where we all live, I will need a rack for my car. I currently have a roof rack, and I'll need something that comes off the back of my car -- which is a Volvo XC 70. What bike rack do you recommend? 5. I certainly need a lock, or locks -- I get that I should keep this bike in sight at all times but I know there will be times (lunch) where I may not be able to. What do you recommend? 6. If you are wondering why I didn't consider a Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0 -- to be candid, most of the reviews on here, which I appreciate, were discouraging. My NH LBS stocks Specialized, but have just ordered the e-bikes for the first time, and I am concerned, although they are really nice people, that they don't have the experience to deal with any issues. The LBS in Portland, ME and Trek dealer, has a certified Bosch technician on staff and has more experience with the e-bikes and while 90 minutes from where I currently live, I do feel more confident that they can handle any issues I may have. Thank you for reading, I look forward to any and all advice and info you may have! Cheers, Barbara
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My two cents. I am 67 and in improving helath thanks to my ebike. My bike is a Cube Touring Exc with Bosch CX drive and a Shimano 11 speed Diore XT. I live in a hilly town in Washington state (and know the White Mountains well having spent time growing up around Bridgton Maine. Last week I test drove a Trek Super Commuter + 8sas I am intersted in getting a Bosch Performance speed capable of 28mph. I did a ride on my bike last week that was 37 miles with 14% battery remaining at the end of the ride. At the rate it was dropping at the end I would have been surprised to see it go beyond 40 miles before running out of juice. I suspect the spped version will give you less than 30 miles. I did that ride mostly in touring mode, the second lowest assist level. Range: the CX will go a lot further than the speed version steep hills: The CX does way better on steep grades with about 20% greater torque. IFrom what you describe, you will be much happier on a bike with the Bosch CX drive for getting around in the mountains. For range you can either get an extra battery and carry it with you in your trunk bag or get a bike that is fitted At the price you are considering you should go look at either the Riese & Muller super Charger with double batteries or the Delight if you want to get full suspension.
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You're a road cyclist, comfortable on you Specialized Divenge. Have you ridden extensively with straight bars? Give the Super Commuter a good long test ride and see how you feel. If you feel like you really need drops, I would look at the Bulls Dail-E Grinder.
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I'm new to e-bikes also having recently purchased a Bulls Lacuba which is a speed pedelec like the Trek Super Commuter+ 8s. I test rode the Trek but ultimately decided on the Bulls because of cost and larger battery (it's primary use is commuting). The Trek is a really nice bike, they put a lot of thought into it and probably charge extra because you have access to their extensive service centers. I've noticed that when I go above 20 mph that my battery drains much faster and I wouldn't have a hope of getting in 40 miles of undulating terrain like there is in your region. Perhaps you should consider the Trek Crossrip which is a gravel bike that should have a better range due to being a lighter bike. With regard to locks, I have the Abus Bordo Granit X and it's well worth the money. It's much easier to lock up the bike with this than a u-lock. If you're just looking for a cafe lock then ottolock is effective when the bike is in viewing distance. Let us know what you ultimately decide on.
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@WhiteMountainsNH I am in the same boat I used to ride the MS150 with a road bike and moved to C. Conway and now the mountains and years have me seeking an e-bike for this area. @Alaskan moved from Bridgton to C. Conway small world it is
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WhiteMountainsNH said: Hello Forum Members! This is my first post, glad to have found you all -- I've been researching e-bikes and reading forum posts and reviews and am starting to narrow in on the Trek Super Commuter + 8s -- My LBS in Maine brought one in for me and I will be going for a test ride tomorrow. Here's my quick story and situation: Road cyclist from coast of Maine who has moved to the White Mountains of New Hampshire. This is going from riding along paved small rolling hills roads along the Maine coast to New Hampshire paved mountain roads and large, and very large hills, as well as hard packed dirt roads, bumpy farm roads and rail trails and this can all be on one ride in northern New Hampshire! I've gotten older (59) and am now dealing with some spinal arthritis and cervical spine arthritis. I can't keep up anymore, and found myself last year avoiding many of our club rides due to hills and length of ride. Also, I would spend the day after the ride in body recovery mode. So, a friend from Nova Scotia with similar arthritic issues has enthusiastically recommended an e-bike. Here's my thoughts, I'm very curious for your input: 1. I will not be using this for commuting. I am retired from Corporate America, manage our 3 Airbnb properties and need my car when I need to go to clean/prep/meet guests. 2. I will be using this for club rides (up to 45 miles long) and some possible light touring, such as the bike trails around New England, maybe Quebec but I don't know if they allow e-bikes on the trail (have not researched that yet). 3. I think I would be better off with nubbier tires -- the SC tires look really too smooth for me when I think of some of the non-paved roads that I might go on (by the way - that my Specialized Expert Diverge handled really well). What would you recommend? 4. I did try the Trek Powerfly (I believe that's the name) and I thought it was too much mountain bike for me -- but given what I said above about possible gravel grinding, what do you think? I wonder if I am trying to turn the SC into a gravel grinder and that's not possible or a good idea. 5. Also, because our club loves doing rides that often start 1-2 hours away from where we all live, I will need a rack for my car. I currently have a roof rack, and I'll need something that comes off the back of my car -- which is a Volvo XC 70. What bike rack do you recommend? 5. I certainly need a lock, or locks -- I get that I should keep this bike in sight at all times but I know there will be times (lunch) where I may not be able to. What do you recommend? 6. If you are wondering why I didn't consider a Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0 -- to be candid, most of the reviews on here, which I appreciate, were discouraging. My NH LBS stocks Specialized, but have just ordered the e-bikes for the first time, and I am concerned, although they are really nice people that they don't have the experience to deal with any issues. The LBS in Portland, ME and Trek dealer, has a certified Bosch technician on staff and has more experience with the e-bikes and while 90 minutes from where I currently live, I do feel more confident that they can handle any issues I may have. Thank you for reading, I look forward to any and all advice and info you may have! Cheers, Barbara Click to expand...
Nova Haibike said: You're a road cyclist, comfortable on you Specialized Divenge. Have you ridden extensively with straight bars? Give the Super Commuter a good long test ride and see how you feel. If you feel like you really need drops, I would look at the Bulls Dail-E Grinder. Click to expand...
bob armani said: My 2 cents on bike racks- 1 up USA Rack made in America and made of aluminum with virtually no plastic parts and very lightweight. Thule Easy Fold Bike Rack -This rack has a optional ramp that allows you to load/unload bikes with ease. However, a bit pricey. Good Luck! Click to expand...
Babrassiler said: I'm new to e-bikes also having recently purchased a Bulls Lacuba which is a speed pedelec like the Trek Super Commuter+ 8s. I test rode the Trek but ultimately decided on the Bulls because of cost and larger battery (it's primary use is commuting). The Trek is a really nice bike, they put a lot of thought into it and probably charge extra because you have access to their extensive service centers. I've noticed that when I go above 20 mph that my battery drains much faster and I wouldn't have a hope of getting in 40 miles of undulating terrain like there is in your region. Perhaps you should consider the Trek Crossrip which is a gravel bike that should have a better range due to being a lighter bike. With regard to locks, I have the Abus Bordo Granit X and it's well worth the money. It's much easier to lock up the bike with this than a u-lock. If you're just looking for a cafe lock then ottolock is effective when the bike is in viewing distance. Let us know what you ultimately decide on. Click to expand...
Alaskan said: My two cents. I am 67 and in improving helath thanks to my ebike. My bike is a Cube Touring Exc with Bosch CX drive and a Shimano 11 speed Diore XT. I live in a hilly town in Washington state (and know the White Mountains well having spent time growing up around Bridgton Maine. Last week I test drove a Trek Super Commuter + 8sas I am intersted in getting a Bosch Performance speed capable of 28mph. I did a ride on my bike last week that was 37 miles with 14% battery remaining at the end of the ride. At the rate it was dropping at the end I would have been surprised to see it go beyond 40 miles before running out of juice. I suspect the spped version will give you less than 30 miles. I did that ride mostly in touring mode, the second lowest assist level. Range: the CX will go a lot further than the speed version steep hills: The CX does way better on steep grades with about 20% greater torque. IFrom what you describe, you will be much happier on a bike with the Bosch CX drive for getting around in the mountains. For range you can either get an extra battery and carry it with you in your trunk bag or get a bike that is fitted At the price you are considering you should go look at either the Riese & Muller super Charger with double batteries or the Delight if you want to get full suspension. Click to expand...
keithd said: @WhiteMountainsNH I am in the same boat I used to ride the MS150 with a road bike and moved to C. Conway and now the mountains and years have me seeking an e-bike for this area. @Alaskan moved from Bridgton to C. Conway small world it is Click to expand...
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Alaskan said: ....At the price you are considering you should go look at either the Riese & Muller super Charger with double batteries or the Delight if you want to get full suspension. Click to expand...
- Apr 10, 2018
@Babrassiler @Alaskan After riding it for an hour or so, I bought the Trek Super Commuter. Definitely needs a Body Float suspension post. Im going to ride it for a season, and if I need another battery pack, I’m going to buy one. I was happy with the ride and my body position. Hoping for a good riding season. Thanks again for your help!
- Apr 11, 2018
WhiteMountainsNH said: @Babrassiler @Alaskan After riding it for an hour or so, I bought the Trek Super Commuter. Definitely needs a Body Float suspension post. Im going to ride it for a season, and if I need another battery pack, I’m going to buy one. I was happy with the ride and my body position. Hoping for a good riding season. Thanks again for your help! Click to expand...
bob armani said: Congrats on your new bike purchase. When I tested several models in the Trek SC category at the Bike Expo, this model came out ahead against all of the top competitors. The smooth ride, the responsiveness of the Bosch motor, the 28mph max output, etc. Enjoy your new ride! Click to expand...
- Apr 12, 2018
Great choice. That is a beautifully integrated bike...great look, great feel, great performance. May it give you many fun rides.
WhiteMountainsNH said: That’s good to hear! After spending another $1K on the suspension seat, a car rack and a trailer hitch- I thought I better be riding it every day (as long as I’m not kayaking Click to expand...
bob armani said: WM NH-Just curious which bike rack you purchased. I know there are some nice units out there to choose from. Click to expand...
WhiteMountainsNH said: I bought the Thule Classic 2 - I have a roof bike rack that is wedged in between my two kayak racks. And will h the weight of the Trek Super Commuter, I’m not going to manage it with the kayaks so on the back it goes. Cheers! Click to expand...
bob armani said: Looks like a very well made rack with all the practical features. @ 60lbs per bike, you are more than within the range for most ebikes. Good choice. Click to expand...
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Trek Verve+ e-bike review: Is it for you?
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The Trek Verve+ is an e-bicycle that was built with the idea of giving the rider the most enjoyable and convenient commute.
A solid aluminum frame offers great convenience as you can ride fast enough to reduce commute time significantly.
On the cost side, I believe it is an affordable electric bike , even though it has superior components.
For this reason, most users love it because it still comes with many features that make it excellent value for money.
However, would you think the same?
The above question helped the brand to work on many improvements. As a result, they recently launched a new model with the Trek Verve+ 2. Read our review to see what changes were made .
– Excellent frame design comes in three (3) color options.
– Comfortable thanks to its ergonomic saddle.
– It has good maneuverability as the handlebar curves towards the rider’s body.
– Lights are always on for the rider’s safety, including daytime.
– Available in a variety of sizes, from 15 to 17″ frame , therefore for 154 cm to 187 cm people tall.
THINGS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED
– It has no front suspension.
– The headlight is mounted on the frame (steering tube), and thus it only illuminates straight ahead.
– The control display is a bit too small, so it may be hard to read some of its metrics.
– The battery may drain faster with the lights on all the time.
– Despite having an aluminum frame, it is still considered heavy at 23 kg .
Table of Contents
Pedal Assist System
This electric bike is classed among Pedelecs, as its power assist is limited to 15 mph (25 km/h) . This is where the motor stops providing power, therefore, it is within the electric bike legislation for all countries. Of course, this doesn’t limit you from riding faster, especially if you’re going downhill.
I was very satisfied with their assistance efficiency of the motor when using PAS 1. I was not expecting less, of course, because Bosch has always pride in their motor efficiency and torque power. In addition, it felt like a smooth push after having the first tyre spin when the motor was activated. There was not much of a difference when using PAS 5, but considering its speed limitation, I don’t think you need such a massive difference between pedal levels.
Bosch 250W Mid-Drive Motor
One of the significant features of the Verve + is its power system, which is fitted with a 250W mid-drive motor built by Bosch.
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Mid-drive motors have a significant advantage, as they provide a good balance and usually tremendous torque to go uphill.
A lthough the Bosch Active Line motor is smaller than the average, it still performs efficiently.
I have to say that the motor may not be the latest built by the brand, so it will be heavier than newer versions.
Despite the above, its efficiency provides very smooth rides and sufficient support with a torque of 40 Nm . I’m surprised that this motor is sitting on the lower range for torque performance however, it was good enough when ride riding on flat terrain.
Unfortunately, this torque rating is not gonna be the best when climbing hills, so if this is the case, then the Trek Super Commuter +9 would be a better fit for you.
Read More: Electric Motor Bike Guide for Beginners .
Bosch Li-Ion Battery
Another vital part of the power system is the Bosch lithium-ion battery. Lithium-ion batteries are superior because they have a long lifespan, with 1000+ cycles before they need replacement.
Read More: eBike Batteries – The Beginner’s Guide
The 300Wh battery found in this Trek model is not the highest one on the market either, but it is decent enough to last for a few years.
A thing to consider here is the battery not being waterproof . This could be potentially an issue if you live in a region where there is constant rain.
On the design side, it sits on the down tube, which doesn’t make it look like the most beautiful model, but it has a lot of conveniences to detach it from the frame.
But not everything is bad about this battery; it actually charges between three and four hours from fully empty. That is actually convenient if you don’t have enough time but need enough power for your next ride.
Remember that the headlights were configured to be on constantly, so ensure the battery has enough energy for the entire trip. Lastly, it can provide a range between 70 and 80 km if you use PAS 1.
The Controller System
Bosch has also reliable controllers to operate electric bikes. In this case, the Verve+ is controlled by the Purion version, which is a minimal device providing basic metrics. Although it comes from a good manufacturer, I believe the controller is a little bit smaller than I would like making it hard to read some of the parameters .
Even though that is my personal opinion, it shows an essential metric, and that is the battery range.
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The brakes and drivetrain
The Trek Verve+ is fitted with quality Shimano hydraulic disc brakes. Even though the rotors are 160 mm, this is more than enough power for a bike that is not going to travel too fast, and it is in the mid-range weight. Though this is the case I was expecting a little bit better from the brand.
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The Trek Verve+ lighting system
A great feature of the Verve plus is the lighting system designed to guarantee safety during the day and night.
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This bike was configured so that the light would switch on automatically. From what we know, it happens when the motor is engaged. In addition, the lights were designed to stay on continuously when you are riding. The difference between them is that the front headlight constantly illuminates, whereas the rear light flashes.
Trek designed the lights to be on throughout, including in the daytime, for the rider’s safety.
Design and Comfort
For the liking of many potential buyers, Trek customized the frame suitable for men and women. When compared to other commuter electric bikes like the Vyron Cumulus Pro , I think it is much more appealing and statically pleasing.
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The Bontrager commuter tires
As a commuter e-bike, the tires needed to provide good grip and great rolling features. For this reason, the manufacturer decided to use the quality of Bontrager tires. In this case, 27″ by 2.1″ tires were used.
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Looking at the inside elements, a puncture protective layer helps to reduce the occurrence of flat tires during cycling, however, this one fully prevents this issue.
The only thing that I would’ve loved from Trek was having a slightly stronger rear rim as it looked a little bit thin, which makes it looks a bit weak.
Read More: Electric Bike Tires Buying Guide .
Suspension and comfy seat
Your comfort is guaranteed by the wide leather saddle of the Verve+.
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Further, this electric bicycle has a suspension seat post and adjustable stem that allows you to alter its height to a more comfortable level.
This is an awesome feature because not many e-bikes offer these.
Available sizes
Trek has ensured that most of the riders can find the right size. Having said that, these are the measurements:
Should you Buy this Trek eBike?
Electric bikes make riding not only convenient but also so much fun. This model can work perfectly for you if you are looking for a durable, smooth-running, and efficient machine.
What I like most about it is the inclusion of the suspension in the seat post. I don’t think it is the best quality, but there is something there, at least.
On the upside, the motor, the battery, and the controller were built by reliable manufacturers.
Although it comes with almost all the gadgets, you might have to make a few additions, such as getting a rear rack to carry stuff.
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All in all, I think the Trek Verve+ is an excellent investment for people looking for a sturdy and reliable low-step electric commuter bike.
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I have a Trek Verve + which I love, but I don’t love that the headlight is always on. Is there a way to turn it off in the daytime?
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Hi Sue, thanks for your question.
Unfortunately, the Trek Verve+ front and rear lights were configured to stay on once you start using the ebike. Having said that, it is not possible to turn it off (unless you run out of battery). I know could be a bummer but Trek also sees this feature as a safety measurement. Regards, Matt.
We are seniors and find the access to charging port extremely difficult. You have to lean down, or lie on floor, to hold flap with one hand and insert a plug which is difficult to see/orient for insertion.
I am an engineer and could have designed far better ergonomics for charging. Shame…I thought e-bikes of this power/range would be ideal for older people… in this one thing you failed.
Hi Jim, thanks for sharing your opinion with the community. Surely, it will be notice by Trek.
You can always detach the battery for easy charging point access.
Regards, Mat.
Just remove the battery and you can charge it any place you like. It doesn’t have to be charged while on the Trek. I charge mine on a counter top. I’m 70.
My husband decided to buy a Trek Super Commuter 8 for work. He encouraged me to look at the Verve+, saying if I had an e-bike we’d be able to do long rides together on trails and all over our hilly town. Reading reviews from people in my age group is what convinced me that this is exactly when I need to enjoy riding more and no longer dread falling way behind. Well, was thrilled and amazed when we made a trip to Boise, Idaho, and brought our bikes to ride on the Greenbelt! We rode longer and further than ever! All the slight uphill sections on trails that you encounter in an underpass no longer slowed me down! Riding into the wind is no longer a problem. And I am excited to do local rides on our trails here in Moscow, Idaho, which I have avoided because of hills or riding into the wind. I still ride my commuter bike to exercise classes three mornings a week because it’s a flat and short ride, plus I love my other bike (my retirement gift). Now I have two wonderful step-through bikes that I alternate between, depending on my destination, and I plan to ride for many, many years!
An e-bike is indeed a great alternative if you are encountering some difficulties while riding on standard bikes. I have an e-bike and a standard one, which I alternate depending on where I need to go.
Thanks for sharing your experience with other bike and e-bike lovers. Regards, Mat
Hello can you tell me the cost of the Trek Verve e bike please.
Hi Lorraine, thanks for contacting us. We are not a direct distributor of electric bikes. Our suggestion would be to check your nearest e-bike store where the Trek Verve is available and compare that price with what Trek ( https://www.trekbikes.com/au/en_AU/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/verve/f/F436/ ) can potentially offer online. The good thing is that you just need to click on Shops (top right corner of Trek’s website) and they will identify your location to advice on stores near you.
Regards. Tim.
If I attach a dog cart – will it impact the long term effect on the motor? I weigh about 120 lbs. Two dogs combined weight about 50 lbs
Hi there, thanks for your question.
The Trek Verve+ 250W Bosch active line mid-motor is powerful enough to carry up to 300 lb (136 kg total weight). Based on the details you provided, the motor should be able to carry the full weight (I’m also including an average dog cart weight of 28 lbs). Now, the more weight you have to carry with your e bike, the more effort the motor has to do, which translates into a long term torque reduction and motor wear. In addition, the motor will have to use more power out of the battery, which will reduce the lifetime of the battery in the long term.
Hope I answered your question. EBA.
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Want a bike for getting about town? The £3,800 Trek Super Commuter+ 8 is a top-dollar option for your city riding, and its performance is pretty stellar, although we’d like to see a bit more function and less form from the rear rack. "There’s no reason to hit the snooze button when your morning commute feels like a dream. Super Commuter+ is the electric bicycle that makes getting where you need to go exactly where you want to be", says Trek of this bike.
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The Super Commuter can be considered a genuine car replacement, but its steep price is off-putting. Buy if you want to arrive to work sweat-free, with a smile on your face
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Price: $4999.00 | Model Year: 2017 A streamlined, feature-complete, commuter style electric bike with Class 3 high-speed operation (up to 28 mph), available through a wide network of dealers. 11-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain offers plenty of range for comfortable pedaling at low and high speeds, Shadow Plus one-way clutch keeps your chain tight. A streamlined, feature-complete, commuter style electric bike with Class 3 high-speed operation (up to 28 mph), available through a wide network of dealers.
A streamlined, feature-complete, commuter style electric bike with Class 3 high-speed operation (up to 28 mph), available through a wide network of dealers
11-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain offers plenty of range for comfortable pedaling at low and high speeds, Shadow Plus one-way clutch keeps your chain tight
Integrated 1,000-watt Supernova M99+ headlight and 3-LED rear light help you see and be seen, large Bosch Powerpack 500 takes you further and is removable
Sturdy 15 mm thru-axle, strong tapered head tube, stable Schwalbe Super Moto-X 2.4" wide tires, lightweight carbon fork dampens vibration, available in four frame sizes
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I was also concerned about Trek Super Commuter +8s range and whether or not I could cover my 33 mile hilly commute in Austin TX. I made it both ways with 2/5 bars left on the battery and averaged 22 mph using 80/20 Tour/Eco modes. Only used Sport and/or Turbo for a couple short steep hills. Tour felt like an enthused fan was pushing from behind.
Feb 10, 2020. #2. If I'm not wrong, the Allant+ 7 is the Class 1 (25 km/h for Europe), and SC+ 8s is Class 3 (45 km/h) or L1e-b S-Pedelec. You can ride the Allant+ 7 as a regular bicycle on bike lanes in Sweden. The Super Commuter 8s+ needs to be registered and insured in Sweden as a moped and you are not allowed to use bike lanes but only roads.
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Formula wheels with double walled rims and sealed bearings pair with fat 2.4″ Schwalbe Super Moto-X 650b tires for durable rolling stock with ample grip to lay down the pedal assist. The Super Commuter+ 8S is available only in red, comes in four sizes (45, 50, 55 & 60cm), and retails for a cool $5000. Only available through your local Trek ...
Trek Super Commuter+ 8S Review - Prices, Specs, Videos, Photos Jun 2017 Price: $4999.00 | Model Year: 2017 A streamlined, feature-complete, commuter style electric bike with Class 3 high-speed operation (up to 28 mph), available through a wide network of dealers. 11-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain offers plenty of range for comfortable pedaling at ...
Super Commuter+ is the electric bicycle that makes getting where you need to go exactly where you want to be. Super Commuter+ pairs our most advanced e-bike technologies with Bosch's longest lasting battery for a ride that redefines the experience of getting around on two wheels.
Brand: Trek, Product: Super Commuter+ 8S There's no reason to hit the snooze button when your morning commute feels like a dream. Super Commuter+ is the electric bicycle that makes getting where you need to go exactly where you want to...
I am debating between the Stromer ST1 X, Trek Super Commuter+ 8s or the Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0. All of them are around $5k. I have ridden the Stromer ST2 (the store didn't have the ST1X in stock), Trek and Specialized and the Trek felt the best honestly. I currently have a Vanmoof S2, I got it about a week ago and found that it really doesn ...
Trek Super commuter + 8S vs. Trek Allant+ 8 I understand that 8S can do 45 km/h which is a plus, while 8 can only do 25 km/h. On the other hand Allant has a 625wh battery upgradable with +500wh which makes it an amazing long tourer. Super commuter is only 500wh and one needs to "pack" anothet battery for longer range.
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Trek Super Commuter+ 8S Review - Prices, Specs, Videos, Photos Jun 2017 Price: $4999.00 | Model Year: 2017 A streamlined, feature-complete, commuter style electric bike with Class 3 high-speed operation (up to 28 mph), available through a wide network of dealers. 11-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain offers plenty of range for comfortable pedaling at ...
I'm new to e-bikes also having recently purchased a Bulls Lacuba which is a speed pedelec like the Trek Super Commuter+ 8s. I test rode the Trek but ultimately decided on the Bulls because of cost and larger battery (it's primary use is commuting). ... I've been researching e-bikes and reading forum posts and reviews and am starting to narrow ...
As a result, they recently launched a new model with the Trek Verve+ 2. Read our review to see what changes were made. BENEFITS. - Excellent frame design comes in three (3) color options. - Comfortable thanks to its ergonomic saddle. - It has good maneuverability as the handlebar curves towards the rider's body.
I planned on waiting for the Crossrip + but just bagged the 8s instead because of the tires. You could go cheaper and pick up a Riese and Muller Charger. I just like how the 8s looks and feels though, others I test drove were the Specialized vado/turbo, the Cannondale one, Giants road ebike.
After considerable literature searching and experimentation, I have built an inexpensive prototype (particular credit to Vspadrva and marze6989 of the German Pedelecs forum) which daisy chains into the cable linking the controller and display and allows a slightly higher speed to be achieved by the motor and effectively irons out the flat spot ...
Jul 9, 2019. #1. Just bought one of these from ebay in silver. See below for the spec. NCM Moscow Plus - NCM Bikes. ncmbikes.de. or. NCM Moscow Plus E-Bike Mountain Bike, 250W, 48V 16Ah 768 Wh Battery, 27.5 / 29 inches. REMOVABLE LITHIUM-ION BATTERY DISPLAY WITH 6 ASSIST LEVELS RUN SECURE AND COMFORTABLE FUNCTIONAL WITH GOOD EQUIPMENT 48V 16AH ...
A 650b aluminum frame commuter e-bike with upper mid-range components and hydraulic disc brakes. ... Commuter; Overview; Gearing; Sizing; Reviews; Geometry; Specs; Rider Notes; Overview 2019 · Trek Super Commuter+ 8S ... Bosch 350W 63Nm mid-drive: Battery: Bosch 500Wh: Brakes: Hydraulic Disc: View on trekbikes.com Learn about Trek Report data ...
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