Matchbox Twenty on 'unfinished business,' how touring does 'vile things' to their bodies
On Matchbox Twentyâs new single, âDonât Get Me Wrong,â Rob Thomas sings, âIâm feeling calm but Iâm never relaxed.â
Itâs a universal sentiment, but one that seems particularly suited to a Matchbox Twenty resurgence.
âEverything after (you turn 40) is this sense of, Iâm not always comfortable in my own skin and thatâs perfectly OK,â Thomas says . âItâs part of the human experience to feel that way.â
After nearly 30 years of existence, a procession of ubiquitous radio hits (âReal World,â âBent,â â3AM,â âUnwell,â âHow Far Weâve Come,â âSheâs So Meanâ) and five albums â including Fridayâs âWhere The Light Goesâ â Matchbox Twenty could easily fill venues for years with the millennial faithful who matured with them and a crop of newer fans who might also be familiar with Thomasâ extensive solo work (âLonely No More,â âSmoothâ).
But instead, the quartet of Thomas, bassist Brian Yale, guitarist/drummer Paul Doucette and lead guitarist Kyle Cook, are bulldozing through 50-plus dates on their just-launched Slow Dream tour and rewarding fans with a solid new album â their first in more than a decade â that reflects their unchanging casual-button-down-and-jeans style in songs such as âFriendsâ and âWild Dogs (Running in a Slow Dream).â
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All of the guys have hit 50 (excepting Cook, who is 47) and theyâre approaching this next phase with a combination of enjoyment and gratitude.
Thomas and Doucette tell us more about why theyâre still comfortable in a changed music industry.
Question: Itâs been more a decade since you last recorded an album, so what was it like getting back in the studio and why did this feel like the right time to do it?
Thomas: As a band we had come to conclusion that we didnât think weâd make another full length record. Maybe the business model would be to tour every few years, do a song or two for us and our fans. But after the (COVID-related) 2020-21 tour postponement and then postponing again in 2022, we felt a real commitment to fans that maybe a tour wasnât enough. Kyle started the idea of making a real record and having something for the fans thatâs a little more exciting than just waiting three years to hear the songs they know.
The industry has changed so drastically since your first albums, and especially your 1996 debut (âYourself or Someone Like Youâ), which sold 12 million copies. Do you think weâll ever see artists achieving Diamond status (10 million sold) with an album again?
Thomas: The biggest artists, like the Taylors and BeyonceĚs, I donât even know if theyâre doing Diamond (numbers).
Doucette: I donât see how that comes back. How do you introduce that business model again? That ship has sailed. When you bought a CD you were buying a physical thing and unless thereâs another thing that comes with music, I donât know why people would buy it.
Thomas: And that new physical thing has to become the standard. Record sales are no longer the carrot they used to be and thatâs not the litmus test anyone is judging by now. There are so many factors of engagement. I just think our bar is moving â not higher or lower, but just what the bar is and what we consider success is changing.
Doucette: When you look at the charts and see the No. 1 album in the country sold 20,000 records?Â
That would have been a really bad sales week for the band in 2000.
Doucette: We probably wouldnât have done anything else after that.
When working on âWhere the Light Goes,â did you think about how the industry might view it or was it simply a feeling of, we want to make a new album?
Doucette: It was way more of a personal decision and that we had unfinished business . We havenât finished doing everything we wanted to do as a band that puts out new material. Over these past 11 years, that was a hole for a lot of us. When the stars aligned, thatâs why we wanted to do it. How the album does, I donât know how much we thought about it. Thereâs the understanding itâs been 11 years, weâre in our 50's, and itâs a huge Hail Mary pass if youâre looking at it only through that lens.
Youâve got a lengthy tour this spring and summer and itâs your first time out in about six years. How do you feel about getting back out there?
Thomas: Â Weâve always been a live band . Before we were signed we were the band that was gigging and trying to play frat parties. When we put our first record out, we were touring, touring, touring, so for us itâs always been part of the cycle. It starts with the inception and creation and then the promotion. The presentation is what closes the loop when we get to share it with fans. Itâs inherent to who we are as a band to get out there and really care about a good live show. Â
Why are you calling it the Slow Dream tour?
Thomas: It sounds pretty.
Doucette: There were two things we liked about it. It connects to the single âWild Dogs (Running in a Slow Dream)" and it felt like a tour I would go see in 1983 or '85, like, itâs Level 42 and the Slow Dream tour! Weâre children of the â80s and we embrace that more and more as we get older.
What are some of your road routines?
Thomas: I have to come in and sing way too hard, way too often, lose my voice, build up those callouses and then get it back before the tour because thatâs when itâs strong. Iâll tell you at the end of this tour what it does to our bodies (laughs). We forget time has passed and we do really vile things to our bodies up there. We throw them around like rag dolls. My chiropractor was like, no more jumping off the piano, that knee isnât going to take it. People forget sometimes that itâs our good time, too. This is our escape. Thatâs the best part of this whole thing, those couple of hours a night. You have buses of crew guys, all the local vendors, all of the fans who have to get babysitters and parking all for this two hours and itâs like a circus tent. You tear it down and you take it to another town and set it back up. Itâs that whole micro universe.
Doucette: You also get spoiled. Iâll walk into a venue and someone will be like, âPaul, can I get you a coffee?â That doesnât happen to me in my normal life (laughs). So Iâm like, I can enjoy this for a few months.
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Here's Matchbox 20's 2023 tour setlist in Phoenix, from 'Push' to 'Don't Get Me Wrong'
The Slow Dreams Tour brought Matchbox Twenty to Phoenix for first time since 2017âs A Brief History of Everything Tour marking the 20th anniversary of their 10-times-platinum debut, "Yourself or Someone Like You."
And this time, that brief history includes their first new album in 11 years, the much anticipated "Where the Light Goes."
They set the tone for their performance with "Friends," the song that opens âWhere the Light Goes,â and made their way through five selections from the album by the time their set was through, including the singles âWild Dogs (Running in a Slow Dream)â and âDonât Get Me Wrong.â
But that still left time for the hits, including all five singles from âYourself or Someone Like You.â
Rob Thomas spoke to The Arizona Republic about how it feels to sing a song like âPushâ or â3AMâ nearly 30 years after recording them.
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âI'm OK if I never heard those songs ever again,â he says. âBut I'm OK with playing them every night.
"Like, there's a living, breathing energy we're sharing with everybody through these songs that have just kind of been around in their life for 27 years. There's no other way for us to look at it other than it's like a member of your family. It doesn't matter whether you like their politics or their conversation at dinner, they're in the (expletive) family."
Matchbox Twenty 2023 setlist for Phoenix stop on Slow Dreams Tour
âHow Far We've Comeâ
âReal Worldâ
âWild Dogs (Running in a Slow Dream)â
âShe's So Meanâ
âAll I Needâ
âQueen of New York Cityâ
âHand Me Downâ
âIf You're Goneâ (acoustic)
âMad Seasonâ
âDonât Get Me Wrongâ
âThese Hard Timesâ
âBack 2 Goodâ
âBright Lightsâ
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Final Day of Rehearsals
It took longer than originally planned after a pandemic postponement, but Matchbox Twenty’s Slow Dream tour finally commenced in 2023 following a series of pre-tour rehearsals.
Frozen Fist Bump
A nightly highlight of the Slow Dream Tour came midset when singer Rob Thomas and guitarist Kyle Cook performed the band’s 2000 hit “If You’re Gone” during a hushed acoustic segment.
Third Time’s a Charm
Matchbox Twenty’s Nashville concert at Bridgestone Arena was twice-delayed — but the fans showed up for the thrice-scheduled date.
Not the Cheap Seats
A segment of VIP fans watched the first three songs of the show from a section onstage and got some face time from band members like guitarist Kyle Cook.
Opening Laughs
Matt Nathanson, who opened the bulk of the tour, cuts up with Rob Thomas before a gig.
Look at That Arc
Kyle Cook shoots some hoops in the parking lot of another anonymous venue.
Ă La Maison
Rob Thomas’ son Maison Thomas, who fronts his own band the Lucky, has popped up onstage with Matchbox Twenty on this tour.
Matchbox Huddle
The band shares a communal moment prior to taking the stage.
A Night in Sioux Falls
Matchbox Twenty headlined the Denny Sanford Premier Center in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, in early June, opening with a triple shot of “Friends,” “How Far We’ve Come,” and “Real World.”
Catching Air
Rob Thomas, at 51, remains a dynamic performer.
Backstage at the Bowl
Maison Thomas and his band the Lucky share some dad time with Rob Thomas backstage at the Hollywood Bowl.
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