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How To Wire Multiple 12V Or 6V Batteries To An RV

Why Connect More Than One Battery To An RV?

An RV uses more electricity than you think. RVers usually figure this out pretty quick when they try out boondocking or dry camping without electrical hookups.

Every time you turn on a light, use the water pump, a fan, or the furnace, power is being drained from the batteries.

Even when switched over to LP gas (propane) the fridge is using electricity.

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No matter what kind of RV battery or batteries you are using, it’s not good to drain them completely.

Lead-acid batteries should only be discharged down to around 50% and Lithium-ion around 20%.

Any more than that will slowly damage the batteries and make them lose the ability to hold a full charge.

Even if you use a generator or solar panel to charge the RV batteries every day, you are going to want a lot of stored power.

That way, you can use as much electricity as you need between charging without damaging the RV batteries.

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One of the easiest ways to add more battery power to your camper is to add more RV batteries.

In this article, I’m going to show the best ways to wire both 12 volt and 6 volt batteries to an RV.

This is about adding 12 volt power to your RV, not creating a solar power bank.

My knowledge is very limited when it comes to large solar power banks that require a lot of batteries.

But, if you want to know more about RV batteries and how to wire them, you’ve come to the right place.

Table of Contents show Why Connect More Than One Battery To An RV? How To Correctly Wire Multiple 12 Volt Batteries To An RV What You Will Need What Is Parallel Wiring? The Wrong Way To Parallel Connect 12 Volt Batteries The Best Way To Parallel Wire Multiple 12V Batteries How To Wire 2 12V Batteries To An RV How To Wire 3 12V Batteries To An RV How To Wire 4 12V Batteries To An RV How To Correctly Wire Multiple 6 Volt Batteries To An RV How To Wire 2 6V Batteries To An RV How To Wire 4 6V Batteries To An RV How To Wire 6 6V Batteries To An RV How To Wire 8 6V Batteries To An RV Frequently Asked Questions What AWG of wire should be used to connect RV batteries? Where do I connect the battery charger on multiple batteries wired together? Does an RV need 2 batteries? Can you mix batteries with different amp hours (ah)? How do you hook up 3 12V batteries to an RV? Should you leave your RV plugged in all the time? Should I wire my RV batteries in series or parallel? What is the difference between RV batteries in series and RV batteries in parallel? Do RV batteries in parallel last longer?

How To Correctly Wire Multiple 12 Volt Batteries To An RV

Wiring multiple 12V RV batteries to an RV isn’t very difficult and most people can do it themselves.

There are a few ways to do it wrong, and I’ll try to cover some common mistakes.

The goal is to wire the 12V batteries together in parallel correctly, so the power output and input is balanced between all the batteries.

This will make the RV batteries last longer and work better.

What You Will Need

The first thing you need to wire RV batteries together is the proper wire. The best sizes to use are 6-4 AWG copper wire.

I suggest 4 AWG because less resistance equals a more efficient transfer of power from battery to battery.

Because every set-up is going to be a little different, depending on the sizes of batteries used and the storage space, I suggest getting a long length of red and black 4 AWG copper wire with the right battery terminal connectors.

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The Windy Nation 4 AWG Wire Kit (click to view on Amazon) is perfect for most deep cycle RV batteries and there should be enough wire for your average RV battery connections.

If you plan on connecting more than 4 RV batteries or there will be some distance between them, get more wire just in case.

For RV setups that will have a lot of power draw, like if you have a large inverter, you may want to go as high as 2 AWG wire to increase the capacity.

To do the job right, you will also need a crimping tool (click to view on Amazon) .

You can try without it, but your terminal connections might not be as tight or secure, which could mean more resistance or a battery that isn’t connected.

What Is Parallel Wiring?

When you connect batteries through parallel, you are combining the positive terminals to the positive ones and the negative to negative.

This combines the batteries to create one large one that still has the same voltage.

You cannot combine batteries of different voltages. It’s also not recommended to combine different ages and sizes of batteries even though it is possible to do so with parallel wiring.

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I won’t go into the specifics of what parallel wiring is because that’s not really what this article is about.

You can read more about parallel and series wiring here if you want to learn more.

The main thing you need to know is that you parallel wire 12V batteries for RVs.

You want the voltage to stay the same unlike when you wire 6V batteries in series because, in that case, you want to double the voltage.

The Wrong Way To Parallel Connect 12 Volt Batteries

This way of parallel connecting 12V RV batteries technically works.

You can see in the graphic below that the positive terminals are connected and so are the negatives.

The wrong part is the load wires that connect the batteries to the RV are both placed on the same battery.

This setup draws most of the power from the first battery and the least amount of power from the battery furthest down the line.

If you parallel wire your RV batteries like this, the first batteries are going to wear out much faster than the others.

You want the load to be evenly distributed so all the batteries are charging and discharging equally.

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The Best Way To Parallel Wire Multiple 12V Batteries

I’ve shown you the worst way. Now I’ll talk about the best way to wire multiple 12V batteries in parallel.

In the graphic below, you see all the 12 volt batteries are wired to external battery terminal posts.

Each wire running from each battery needs to be the same length, otherwise you will add more resistance to one battery than others, and the circuit will be unbalanced.

The major downside to this method is not everyone has space in their RV to add external terminal posts.

Also, the difference in balance between this method and others may not be enough to make it worth it.

If you are creating a large solar power bank with 8 or more batteries, apply this method to keep all the batteries healthy.

For small RV battery banks, you can wire in other ways to create balanced batteries.

How To Wire 2 12V Batteries To An RV

Two 12 volt RV batteries wired in parallel is one of the most common set-ups and the one most RV manufacturers add compatments for.

Even my travel trailer came with two deep cycle 12 volt batteries in plastic battery boxes, wired in parallel, and neatly stored on the front of the trailer.

In the graphic above, you see the terminals are wired in parallel using even lengths of cable.

The main difference between this wiring and the one I called wrong is the load wires from the RV are connected to different batteries.

Doing this distributes the load, and with just two batteries, you will have a balanced circuit.

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How To Wire 3 12V Batteries To An RV

Once you add over two batteries, the simple 2 RV battery method gets a little less efficient.

But just adding one more battery will not make a huge difference, so I still suggest wiring a 3 12 volt RV battery setup in a similar way to the 2 battery method.

You still need to put the load wires on the end batteries so the middle RV battery is being drawn from evenly.

The middle will put out fewer amps than the end two, but the difference should be small enough that it’s not a huge deal.

If you want three absolutely perfectly balanced RV batteries, you can use the best method I mentioned in the beginning of this section, or apply the Cross-Diagonal method I talk about next.

How To Wire 4 12V Batteries To An RV

If you’re going to add 4 batteries to your RV, you are going to have to get a little fancier with the wiring.

You can still just chain the terminals together like the 2 or 3 battery method, but things will be very unbalanced.

The Cross-Diagonal method is a simple way to keep 4 or more batteries balanced without having to apply the terminal post method seen in Graphic 1.

It looks complicated, but if you follow each wire, you will see that it’s easier than it looks.

You can start by connecting two pairs of batteries using a short wire. Then take the two pairs and connect them using one long wire.

This combines the two groups. You connect the RV Power wires to the center terminal that has both the short and long wire on it.

Make sure the negative and positive load wires are still connected to two different batteries.

If everything was wired right, the load wires will connect to the middle batteries.

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Each battery has both a long and short wire connected to it, which helps balance out the resistance, and keeps the 4 batteries even.

By adding a few more connections, it has created a better balance than if you were to use the standard chain connections with the load wires on each end.

If you can’t fit 4 batteries in a row in your RV battery storage space, you can connect them the Cross-Diagonal way in a block, as shown in the graphic below.

Each battery still has a long and short connecting wire and should still be perfectly balanced.

Right now my travel trailer has 2 12V deep cycle RV batteries sitting on the tongue.

When they finally stop holding a charge, I plan to install 4 12V AGM deep cycle RV batteries like the top choice in this article on the best RV batteries .

After measuring, I found I should be able to fit them all on the trailer tongue like in the graphic below.

I’ll still be able to use the Cross-Diagonal method to keep the batteries balanced.

The only obstacle is finding a box that can fit all the batteries to keep them protected from the weather.

The reason I want to keep the batteries loaded on the front of the travel trailer is to keep the weight evenly distributed for safer towing.

How To Correctly Wire Multiple 6 Volt Batteries To An RV

6V RV Batteries can be a good choice if you are looking for an increase in durability and total amp hours in a battery.

There are many pros and cons to both 6 and 12 volt batteries for RVing, but it mostly comes down to preference.

You can read more about each kind of RV battery setup and its pros and cons here .

If you’re going with 6 volt RV batteries, the wiring is going to be a little different.

You need to increase the voltage to 12 volts because no RV is made to run on 6 volt power.

You can do this by wiring two 6 volt batteries together in series, which means connecting a positive to a negative terminal.

When you do this, you increase the voltage but not the amperage.

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For example, if you have two 12V 100ah deep cycle RV batteries and you wire them together in parallel, you end up with 12 volts and 200ah.

If you wire two 200ah 6 volt batteries together in series, you end up with 12 volts but the amp hours remain 200.

The good news is you can combine series and parallel wiring with 6 volt batteries so you can combine 4 or more and keep the voltage at 12 for an RV, but increase the amp hours.

I’ll go through each of these wiring methods below.

Note that you should never combine different amp hour 6V batteries. They must be the same size, kind, and, if possible, age.

How To Wire 2 6V Batteries To An RV

As I mentioned before, the first thing you need to do is connect two 6V batteries in series to create a 12 volt battery bank.

You do this with a small piece of wire, preferably the 4 AWG copper wire I mentioned in the 12V section of this article.

The wire color doesn’t matter. I made the series wire blue in the graphics so they are easier to understand.

You still attach the load wires that power the RV to different batteries. You should never have both load wires on one 6V battery.

How To Wire 4 6V Batteries To An RV

Once you’ve wired 2 6V batteries in series to make a 12V battery, it’s really easy to wire 2 more 6V batteries together in series and parallel to increase the amp hours.

You can do this by combining each pair of 6V batteries and then wiring them together in parallel like you would 2 12V batteries.

Make sure you connect the load (RV power) wires to the different pairs of 6V batteries, as shown in the graphic above.

This will help keep the batteries balanced, which keeps them healthy and holding a full charge for longer.

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How To Wire 6 6V Batteries To An RV

You can make huge battery banks using 6V batteries, but for RV use, even having over 4 6V batteries is going to weigh a lot.

But if your energy needs are high, you can easily wire 6 6V RV batteries together using the same series and parallel method used above.

The batteries will be reasonably balanced, much like wiring 3 12V batteries together.

You can use the Cross-Diagonal method to balance them even more if you want, but the difference may not be enough to make it worth it.

How To Wire 8 6V Batteries To An RV

While having 8 6V batteries in an RV isn’t super common, it may be the right choice for you.

I decided to add this diagram to illustrate how 8 6V RV batteries can be wired in series but also balanced in parallel using the Cross-Diagonal method.

Frequently Asked Questions

What AWG of wire should be used to connect RV batteries?

4 AWG is going to be the best for connecting RV batteries, but you can also use 6 AWG and get good results.

Where do I connect the battery charger on multiple batteries wired together?

The battery charger should always be connected to the same battery terminals the load wires are connected to.

This will help the batteries charge at an even rate so no battery is getting overcharged while another on the same circuit isn’t getting charged enough.

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Does an RV need 2 batteries?

If you are going to use 6 volt RV batteries, then you have to have at least two of them to reach 12 volts of power.

If you are going to use 12 volt batteries, only one is necessary, but I suggest getting either a large 100ah 12V deep cycle RV battery or two smaller 35-50ah 12V deep cycle RV batteries.

Can you mix batteries with different amp hours (ah)?

When connecting batteries in series as you would with 6V batteries, you cannot mix batteries with different amp hour capacities.

When wiring in parallel, like you would with 12V batteries, you can use different sizes of 12V batteries.

That being said, it’s important to try to not mix different ages of batteries. I wouldn’t wire anything together that are older than 6 months apart.

How do you hook up 3 12V batteries to an RV?

It’s easy to wire 3 12V batteries in parallel to an RV.

You can scroll up and check out the diagram labeled graphic 3 in this article for more information.

Should you leave your RV plugged in all the time?

If you are going to leave your RV plugged in all the time, you should check and make sure your RV has a smart or 3 stage charger installed in the power center (converter area).

Older RVs may only have an older kind of trickle charger in the converter, which can cause your batteries to get overcharged, which can be just as bad for them as going dead.

If your RV has an older charger in it, you can swap it out for a different one pretty easily.

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If you have a smart or 3 stage charger in your RV, it should be safe to leave the batteries plugged in all the time.

Remember to do regular maintenance on the batteries and check the water levels if they are flooded lead-acid.

Should I wire my RV batteries in series or parallel?

12V RV batteries should always be wired in parallel. You want to keep the voltage the same but increase the amp hours.

6V RV batteries need to be wired in series in pairs to create a 12V battery.

Once two 6V batteries are wired together in series, you can wire them to another pair of 6V batteries using parallel wiring.

What is the difference between RV batteries in series and RV batteries in parallel?

When wiring batteries in series, you are increasing the voltage they will put out.

For example, two 12V batteries wired in series will become a large 24V battery, which is too high for RV use.

That’s why you wire them in parallel instead, because you only want to increase the amp hours, not the voltage.

Because of the increased voltage when wiring batteries in series, you can connect two 6V batteries to create a 12V battery that is compatible with an RV.

Do RV batteries in parallel last longer?

When wired the correct and balanced way, 12V batteries wired in parallel can last a long time.

If they are wired incorrectly, the battery the RV is directly connected to may wear out faster than the others.

It can be slightly harder on batteries to be wired in series, but 6V batteries are known to be tough.

The difference between 2 6V batteries wired in series compared to 2 high quality 12V RV deep cycle batteries wired in parallel will be very small.

Have any more questions about wiring multiple RV batteries? Leave a comment below.

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Great article. But I still have a question.

I’ve got Six, 6 volts, series, then parallel. They are brand new, but two are slightly lower in voltage than the other four. I know it’s a warranty issue, but I bought them while travelling and taking them back is not an option.

So, moving forward, is it best to put the two “lower volt” batteries on the outside of the wiring chain?

I have them as you shown in your article, were in my case the two that are connected to RV load in are “First in line”

My after thought is to have them in the middle set wired in series together as they might be causing more resistance the way I have it now.

I value your knowledge. Thank you. Gary

The problem with combining batteries that are different voltages in a battery bank, especially one with 6 batteries, is it can create an unsafe circuit. The larger batteries are going to try and charge the lower voltage ones no matter where they are placed in the circuit, which will result in overcharging and reduce the lifespan of all of the batteries. In a worse case scenario, it could even destroy the smaller voltage batteries.

In large battery banks like yours, it’s even recommended to always use the same brand of batteries as different brands can have slightly different voltages even if the label says they are the same.

Since all the batteries are new I would sell the two odd 6V batteries and buy two new ones that match the other 4 perfectly. Even though you may lose a little money initially your battery bank will be much safer and all the batteries will last longer which saves you money in the long run.

Hello Jenni, Thank you for your “balanced” 8 6v battery wiring design! Last night I compared all the configurations I could find on the web and agree that your scheme is the most balanced with the fewest resistance creating cables and terminals. I have jumped into the deep end on my RV battery problems as we are moving to more dry camping and less dependency on shoreline power occasions. I have questions that you might help me with and am hoping I’m not in over my head…

I bought 8 6v 225Ah AGMs that I will wire in series-parallel identical to your last figure above. Understanding that all cables and connectors need to be the best quality copper I can find and all of identical length and resistance throughout. I perceive that less is more in terms of gauge? I’ll assume that 2 AWG is overkill and 6 AWG or smaller is just OK or climbing in resistance. Thank you for that recommendation!

On the RV’s Converter/Charger: But what am I getting into going from 2 “weak” 90Ah (<180Ah total) 12v batteries as the RV with built with when going to 900Ah total in the bank? I will check the converter/charger to make sure it is a “smart charger” type but will I need to modify the converter/charger to accommodate a battery bank 5 times normal capacity? Is there a formula to determine what output my converter/charger should produce to service 900Ah of battery?

On my solar panel charging: I have been using a 100W solar panel with a 30A charge controller which seemed to do just fine servicing the 2 “weak’ 12V batteries. Will an addition of one more 100W solar panel be sufficient to support a 900Ah bank?

I’m treading in deep water here in terms of understanding… Help!

Thanks again for great info!

You will need to get a different kind of charger that will be capable of handling that amount of amp hours. This Go Power! GPC-100amp 4 stage converter charger (click to view on Amazon) can handle up to 10 batteries and should be able to handle 900Ah. I suggest putting the charger as close to the bank as possible and making sure the wiring is the right size.

That being said I am not a professional and I can only help you with what I know. With a battery bank of that size in an RV I would suggest getting a professional to help you with the charging and wiring aspects. If it’s done right the batteries will last a long time but charging them wrong could ruin them.

As for the solar panels. If you do the math two 100W solar panels will give you about 60Ah per day. At that rate, it would take 15 days to generate 900Ah. Of course, you probably won’t be using that much power daily but you will probably end up wanting more solar panels so you can recharge your power bank quicker.

Jenni, I have upped my game a bit on the solar panels to service the 900Ah battery bank. Thanks for your help! In regards to your drawing above, which I intend to use, I have a question with respect to balancing all cables to equalize the resistance so no One battery gets charged any more or less than the others. So does that mean that if the cables that I use to “Bridge” the 2 banks of 4 is 20”, does that mean that the cables that tie them in parallel and the cables that connect in series (blue) all have to be 20”?

Yes, making all the connecting cables the same length is going to give you the best results.

The 30 amp charger controller is fine for maybe 5 of those tiny panels, so you’re set there. The “converter” should also be fine. It will take more time with any source to charge a much larger bank. The first thing I would do is add panels to the limit of the charge controller, unless it is very limited (PWM), in which case I would change out the entire solar side of it with residential panels and a 60 amp MPPT controller, IF you have the roof space for normal panels. These days, if you buy standard panels, you can get brand name for under 200 bucks with a 400 watt output. If you’re not swapping to LiFePo4, and keeping the same chemistry, you should not need to change anything rlse, but you might want to.

My setup will be the same as “Travel Trailer Tongue” but in a metal, ventilated box behind the steps on my RV. Would it be advantageous to just flip the second and fourth battery in that diagram so that each cable will be the exact same length when you connect them together in a crosshatch pattern with three “X”s ? If so where would I connect the load cables?

The cross diagonal method shown on the travel trailer tongue is about the same thing, you just don’t have to run the wires across the tops of the batteries. I think it will work about the same either way. Here’s a diagram with the 2nd and 4th batteries flipped to help show where the load cables should be connected.

Hi Jenni and thank you for such great information. I have two questions if you can please:

We are going for off-grid stays in our van and I will be augmenting the existing 600a of lithium batteries with two additional batteries. They have one season with very few cycles and I have read that in parallel, mixing these with two new is not a concern. Is this ok?

Also, assuming I wire two banks as you have shown for 400a, how should they connect and where should I take 12V power from?

Much appreciated

As batteries are used and age they slowly lose their capacity. When you add a new one to the mix you are basically putting batteries with two different capacities together which is not recommended because either the newer battery will not get charged enough or the older battery will get charged too much which may damage it.

However, if the lithium batteries in your bank have only been used a few times and you have kept them charged with a proper lithium battery charger they probably haven’t lost very much of their original capacity. There will be some difference between the new and old but probably not enough to damage the old batteries when charging. The thing that will most likely happen is the new batteries will lose some capacity a little quicker than they normally would.

I agree that it’s probably not a big concern to add the two new ones.

For your other question about the wiring, are you asking about parallel wiring 4 12V batteries together or 4 6 volt?

Thank you for the response – and I agree. I am trying to fine a diagram for wiring 8-12V batteries in parallel. Thank you

Sorry Jesse – saw Jenni from a previous post…

Great article – thanks! I’m in the process of buying a 1999 National Dolphin. For the first 18 months it will be my weekend home on a lot I’ve recently purchased (while my house is being built). Let’s assume that the two 6 volt batteries currently installed are old. In my “perfect world”, I’ve got a 100W solar array that is charging two or four deep cycle batteries that keep me comfortable while I’m there, and then are kept charged during the week by the solar (I have a full south exposure). My questions: 1. do I disconnect the two 6V for now, and just connect the cables to those leads? 2. If I permanently wanted to move over two my new battery array, besides building a stable holder for them, do I need to do anything beyond ensuring that I connect the cables from my new batteries into the existing system? I expect I will be boondocking as I will do some cross country travel during the summer, so the strong battery backup will be of value. 3. Is there any reason to consider doing this with 6V batteries v. 12V? 4. can I have the solar charger connected to the battery array while I’m using the RV?

Thanks in advance for any insights or redirects.

1. Yes, I assume the old 6V batteries are wired in series, if you end up getting 12V batteries you will need to wire them in parallel. Also, never combine old batteries with new ones. 2. No, but again you need to make sure you wire them right. If you go with lithium you will need to make sure you have a lithium compatible charge controller on your RV and solar panel. You can read more about charging lithium batteries in this article here . 3. This is a good question that has a lot to do with personal preference. I have written an article about it you can find here . 4. Yes.

Hope this was helpful, good luck with the RV, if you have any more questions feel free to ask.

Thanks for the quick response – I’ll review the articles you called out!

I want to connect two 12V batteries in series and parallel. Is this possible. This is on my boat so that I can charge the batteries with the 12V charging system from the boat motor and still be able to run my 24V trolling motor.

Hey Marshall,

Connecting your batteries in series for the motor and parallel for the charger won’t work. What you can do is connect a 12V charger to each battery (use 2 12V chargers) or get a 24V battery charger.

I’m in the process of wiring two banks of 6V batteries. Bank 1 is approximately 8 feet from bank 2. What would the recommended gauge wire from the positive terminal on bank 2?

Hi Richard,

The size of wire you need to use depends a lot on how many amps you plan on running from the banks to your RV. If you are connecting them to an inverter you should consult the inverters manual to find out what gauge of wire is recommended.

If the battery bank is just for running the 12V appliances in your RV then something in the 2 to 4 AWG range should work fine.

Keep in mind that I am not a professional and wiring big battery banks like that can be complicated. You may want to consult a professional, especially if you are wiring them to an inverter.

Yes the two battery banks are for running the 12V RV appliances (tv, lights, refrigerator, fans) or through the 300W inverter (tv, laptop, iPhone, etc). Thanks

Jenni, I have installed 4 new/matching 6-V batteries in my RV and have used the most common (included on your site and most others) series/parallel method. Should all hot/ground be connected to one terminal at each end of the battery pack or can I hook to the other end of the hot and ground jumpers?

I think that would be possible and it probably won’t unbalance everything too much. It is best to use the outer terminals to connect the hot wires because that’s the most balanced way but if you need to use the opposite ends than what’s shown in the graphic it will probably be fine.

No matter what don’t connect the hot wires on the same end of the battery bank. They need to be as opposite as possible for a balanced charge and output.

Thank You Jenni, I’ll stick to the original layout as that seemed to to be the best alterative, but was just curious. Thanks for your help…

I have a two battery system that I am trying to wire in parallel with 2 more batteries in a separate location 3-4ft away. If the OEM install had two batteries with primary RV Power lines there, what is the best way to wire the 2nd bank of 2 batteries or do i need to move the RV power Negative to the second battery bank? These are all 12volt – Marine batteries.

I think the best way is going to be to turn the two battery banks into a large 4 battery bank by moving the negative RV power. For an even draw, you will also need to make sure all the connecting wires are the same length. If there is any way to move the batteries so they can be together that’s going to simplify things a lot.

These are in the bilge of a boat so not possible to move together, but if I extend the negative RV Power, do I need to extend the Positive RV Power line the same, looks like they different in length by a bit already. Should I extend the shortest one? This is house batteries so mostly concerned with Amp hours, but is there a slightly imbalanced approach that will work alternatively? Thank You Jenni!

From what I know about 12 volt battery systems it actually will probably be ok to just extend the negative wire to reach the other group of batteries. There will definitely be a little bit of loss from the long cable but it should still work.

I think the most important thing will be to use thicker wires to connect each pair of batteries so the power draw and battery charge will be as balanced as possible. If you use the cross diagonal method for connecting 4 12V batteries in parallel it should be ok. It’s not an optimal set up with the two pairs being so far apart but hopefully, they will still be fairly balanced.

Makes sense. I will look for a connection block to extend it. Thanks for your help!

Thanks for the informative article. I have an RV that has four 12 V batteries in parallel installed by the manufacturer, but I have space for one more. As it they are getting old, I’m replacing all of the batteries using the original wiring harness, but I’d like to add an additional one. What would be the best way to add the additional battery without having to replace the existing wiring harness. Best as I can tell, the existing batteries are wired per your 4 12v battery diagram.

Thanks again

From what I know about wiring batteries, and I’m no professional, it doesn’t seem like it’s possible to add the 5th battery and still use the cross diagonal method. The extra battery just throws everything out of balance.

Even though it will require a little more work, I think using the terminal post method, which is the most balanced, is going to be the best way to go.

I wish I had a better answer but I’ve only ever seen that method used for larger battery banks that use over 4 batteries like the one you want to build.

I might contact a professional, and if I get any more information, I’ll post it here. Thanks again for your help!

Great article. I’m about to pick up a 41’ fifth wheel. I’ll be moving in the RV for several months. The lot doesn’t have power right now so I’ll be using a generator.

The RV only has on 12 v battery but I’m considering adding several to create a power bank. I’m still very new to this but I wanted to ask if I have a power bank of 6 batteries, will the generator charge the batteries as is? Or will I need to retrofit some extra equipment to ensure the newly fitted batteries get recharged?

Hopefully that makes sense

For a battery bank of that size, I would get a second opinion on what size of charger you might need. My knowledge is pretty limited when it comes to banks larger than 4 batteries.

For charging it all depends on how many amp hours each battery has and what rate you want them to be charged at. If we’re talking 6 100 amp hour batteries you will have 600 ah. If you want to charge at a rate of 10% you’re going to need a charger that can output a minimum of 60 amps.

The converter/charger in your RV probably isn’t capable of amperage that high and neither is the wiring. It might be a good idea to get a better charger and wire it close to the battery bank with the recommended size of wire for the amps that will be going through it.

As for the generator, it also depends on what size that is as well.

Help! We have 2 6vt batteries wired in a series as the diagram above. There is no power to my camper or tongue Jack. It has to be a battery issue because when I hook up a single 12 volt everything works fine. The 6 colts are brand new. Thank you.

It sounds like the wiring is the problem. Are you sure the RV negative is on a different battery? Both the RV negative and positive need to be connected to different batteries to make the circuit work.

I can only help as far as the wiring goes. It’s possible that one of the terminals on a battery is bad. The issue with using 6V batteries is everything has to be working and wired properly to run an RV.

Check everything again including the wires that are running between the batteries to connect them in series. If all the wiring looks right then it must be a bad battery.

I need to find out how to connect the power lines and fuse lines to my 4 6volt batteries.

If you look at the graphic for how to wire 4 6 volt batteries to an RV it shows you where to connect the positive and negative power lines coming from the RV.

If you want to add a fuse put it on the positive line coming from the RV near the battery. The size of fuse depends on the kind of set up you have but 30 amp fuses are pretty commonly used. I would try and match the amperage coming out of the charger/converter in your camper.

Hi, Thanks for the great information. I keep my 2005 5th wheel in storage and use at an rv park. So it is plugged in all the time. My heater stopped igniting and I found it might be my batteries causing the problem. I have 2 6v Trojan batteries and I am sure they have gone dead (over 6 years old). After reading your articles, how would I switch over to one 12v DC 75 to 100 ah battery? How does the wiring go?

Thanks for your help,

Because you are using a 12V battery you don’t need to do any fancy wiring. Just connect the positive RV wire to the positive 12V battery terminal and the negative to the negative.

I have a 2020 bullet 30′ trailer and I’d like to add a 3rd 12v battery to the existing 2. Do you think the existing charger/inverter will be adequate to support the 3rd battery? You have provided great information!! It’s a great service to all of us with RV’s Rich

I hope you are reading comments still. The 6 -6v example. Why would you not wire 3 in parallel to create effectively 6v with 3xAH then series the two? To create 12v with the same AH. 6-6v220ah would still equal 12v660ah.

I’m going to have to do a little more research on that. The main reason I can see would be just having technically two batteries connected in series would create a very unbalanced battery bank but I’m actually not 100% sure on that. I’m going to contact some people and hopefully get back to you with a good answer soon.

I have 6 12v SOK LFP batteries that I want to hook up in two rows of three. The 4 battery cross connect method seems doable but how do I extrapolate for six vs 4 in the diagram?

The cross-connect method is really only good for 4 batteries. A battery bank with 6 batteries is pretty large and I would definitely go with the terminal post method. You can still do two rows of 3 that way and it’s going to be better balanced.

I have two 6 volt batteries wired in a series, can I hook them up to two 12 volt batteries so that I have 3 12 volt batteries?

You should never wire batteries that are different voltages together. Even though they are technically the same voltage when wired in series the 6 volt batteries will charge and behave differently than the 12 volt ones.

It’s recommended when building a battery bank to use batteries that are the same voltage, age, and even the same brand.

Hi Jenni, This article was very informative to me since I am a new RV owner. I need to store my RV for 5 months and the storage facility does not have 30 or 50 amp service. So, I can’t connect my shoreline power cable. I have a Newmar Class A 2021 model and Newmar does not advise to use a “dogbone” conversion of their shoreline power connector to a standard 110V outlet connector. So, the storage place offers Battery Tenders for my house and chassis battery banks. This is the direction I plan on going.

I liked to be informed, so my question to you is which specific terminals in this 8 battery 6V battery configuration should I connect the Battery Tender positive and negative cables? I have this exact configuration that you have listed below. If you can be specific on the actual diagram that would be ideal, I did not understand your FAQ response. Also, Can you connect 2 battery tenders to this 8 battery 6V configuration, if yes, again what specific terminals would you connect each Battery Tender

Thank you, Russ

How To Wire 8 6V Batteries To An RV While having 8 6V batteries in an RV isn’t super common it may be the right choice for you so I thought I’d add this diagram to illustrate how 8 6V RV batteries can be wired in series but also balanced using the Cross-Diagonal method.

Where do I connect the battery charger on multiple batteries wired together? The battery charger should always be connected to the same battery terminals the load wires are connected to.

Hi Russell,

You connect the cables of the charger to the same terminals the RV power cables are connected to. So put the positive battery charger cable in the same spot as the positive RV power cable and same with the negative.

Some battery chargers can be “stacked” so you have two connected to the same terminals. You will have to read the guidelines for the battery chargers you are going to be using to make sure it’s ok.

I think a good way to keep your battery bank charged with two battery chargers would be to split the banks into two. So rewire them using the 4 6V battery diagram and connect the chargers to the terminals the “RV power” is supposed to be connected to.

Hi Jenni, Would bus bars work the same as the terminals you mentioned in the section on the 12 volt parallel hook up? Ray.

Yes, bus bars are an excellent way to go.

I just picked up a 3o ft motorhome with 2 12 volt batteries. I have a couple of 12 volt batteries from my boat that I would like to add to my motor home but I should not add it to my existing battery setup because they are different ages. Is it worth setting up a battery switch so I can charge one set and then switch it to the other two when those are complete?

That sounds like a great idea to me, I’ve heard of RVers doing that exact thing.

Here’s a great battery switch (click to view on Amazon) that’s for both RV and marine dual battery bank setups.

Hi. Curious if you can provide a best wiring scenario for 6 x 12v 100 ah renogy agm batteries in parallel.

I am building a custom battery bank in the spare tire area of my class C. I’ll putting 1400w of solar on the roof and a 2000w inverter charger to power both 12v and 120v outlets including the air conditioner with the 600 ah total at 12v. I saw the 4 in your diagram above. They would have that same orientation (3×3) as the 2 x 2 orientation in your 4 battery post. Happy ton send a photo of it completed! Thanks!

For a battery bank of that size, you definitely want to go with the terminal post method with all the connecting cables being the same length.

Sounds like you’re going to have an awesome boonkdocking setup. We’d love it if you’d send some pics of the final result.

I originally found your write-up when I first bought my RV – it only had 2 flooded Lead-Acid batteries from the factory and does have a solar panel for charging. I am going to replace the batteries with 4, and decided to continue with lead acid, because all I want to do is double the over-night battery time – with 2 batteries I get between 6-7 hours, but “need” 10-12 without firing up generator or running my truck to charge. I was planning on the cross-diagonal diagram you provided, but someone with the same RV sent me the diagram as theirs was wired by the factory with 4 batteries. Basically, the batteries are all the same as your diagram, but the charge load from the solar, and the RV Main/Converter and Invertor are separated. That would seem to leave it unbalanced! Your thoughts on this?

I think that could actually work as well. But I’ve always been told to put the load and charging cables on the same terminals since you want the battery that’s being discharged to be charged first.

But since there are two positive and negative terminals that are connected to a long and short wire, putting the RV load wires and solar charge cables in different spots probably won’t unbalance things too much. I think you could go with either way, but I’ve always put the load and solar charge cables on the same termnials.

This seems to only be the case when you use the cross-diagnanol method. Most of the other methods only produce one positive and negative terminal that create a balanced draw so you have to put the RV and solar charging cables on the same terminal.

I’d love to see that diagram if you are willing to email it to me.

Hi Jenni, Completely brand new to RV’ing. Trying to feel out how much battery life I need. Going to be plugged in the great majority of the time. Family of 6 though with kids and wife that will be using a lot of power on long road trips and when boondocking for 2-3 days max. Bought a brand new Super C with 2 deep cycle 12v batteries and Onan generator. The RV dealer is suggesting I get more batteries and specifically, 4 6v batteries. I read your prior posts that this is not advisable; kind of shocked that they would suggest it then, pretty alarming. Anyway, do you think I need to add an additional 12v or do you think the two 12v’s are enough? Deathly afraid of running out of battery life. Thanks for your help.

6 volt batteries are still great to use, and back in the day, they were better than 12 volt batteries. But today they are making 12 volt deep cycle batteries that are just as durable. But some still choose 6 volt anyways which is also fine.

If you were to add more 12 volt batteries you would need to buy all new ones since it’s not advisable to have batteries that are different ages in one battery bank.

I think you should go boondocking a few times to see if the two batteries you already have are enough. You will probably need to run your generator for a few hours every day to recharge them.

I also recommend getting some solar panels to charge the batteries during the day as well. The solar panels combined with the generator should keep your RV powered up for a few days of boondocking.

Check out this post for some great solar panel options for charging RV batteries.

After a few camping trips you should know if you will need more battery power or not.

For running the TV and small electronics you could also get a portable power station ( click here to read more about them ).

They’re better than large battery banks in some ways since they have inverters built in so you can plug AC powered appliances directly into them. They can be charged via solar panels, the generator, and at home.

Welcome to the world of RV’ing!

Great article. I currently have 2 6 volt deep cell batteries. I have 100 watt solar panel. This does not work for us. I just purchased 2, 105 ah lithium batteries. I need to purchase a controller that will work with lithium batteries. I thought it might be good to get a controller that could handle 4 batteries. We dry camp and may need more battery storage. What charge controller should I get. When I switch to the 12 volt batteries, do I connect all the wires that currently are connected to the positive on the 6 volt to the positive of the 12 volt. Then the same with the negative wires? What size controller should get.

If the plan is to stick with a single 100W panel, something like the Renogy Voyager 20A (click to view on Amazon) would work with your new batteries. Then you also have the option to buy an additional panel later on.

Are your new batteries 12V? If so, when you switch you’re going to wire the batteries in parallel instead of series. If this is for an RV, the 6V batteries are most likely wired in series right now for a 12V system.

When you wire in parallel, you combine the positives together separate from the negatives. This adds the amperages together, but keeps the voltage the same as from one panel (which is what you want with 12V batteries in a 12V system).

In a series connection, you connect the positive to the negative to combine the volts but not the amps. This is how it’s wired when you use 6V batteries in a 12V system like an RV.

The charge controller I link to can handle 20A, which means 20A from solar panels. A single 100W 12V panel produces about 30Ah on a good day (5-6Ah per hour), so it would take a full week of sunshine to charge your new batteries (210/30).

Therefore I would add a second panel of the same model and wire it in parallel with an MC4 Y branch (click to view on Amazon) , before adding more batteries.

Looks like I’ll need 6-8 100 watt solar panels to charge my 12 volt batteries. Would a 60A MPPT controller be able to manage this system? Thanks for you help.

I didn’t mention that I have a 40Amp Intelli Power converter. Model PD 9140 A. How does this play into the picture? Do I need to purchase a charge wizard?

I don’t know enough about the PD converter chargers to say for sure, I recommend contacting them and asking if it’s a good converter for lithium batteries and/or the charge wizard is necessary.

They might recommend a different converter charger, but it’s going to be worth it to upgrade if you’ve spent a lot of money on lithium batteries.

Yes it should, if you look at this Renogy 60A MPPT solar charge controller (click to view on Amazon) for example, it can handle up to 800W at 12V.

Do I hook up any battery cables from my coach batteries to my engine batteries

Usually, there aren’t any cables that are connected directly between the coach and engine batteries.

Some RVers will install a charger that is wired from the coach to the engine batteries. If your motorhome has one of these chargers, cables might need to be hooked up to both batteries.

Didn’t see this question asked and maybe because the answer is obvious. I have a 39ft toy hauler with two 12v batteries hooked up in parallel. I have two sets of power cables running to the battery compartment. I assume one is from the 12v converter and the other is from the generator? My question is I assume I hook both sets of cables to the same terminals. Meaning two positives to one battery and two negatives to the other.

Yes, you should connect them to the same terminals.

Regarding the section for wiring 3 batteries in parallel, Graphic #3, there is a comment “The middle will put out fewer amps than the end two,” but this comment is not correct. The 3 batteries in this set up are actually equally balanced. Assuming the short connecting wires between the batteries are all the same length and same gauge, then the total resistance in each of the individual battery circuits is identical. Thus, each battery should deliver exactly the same amperage to the load circuit. For the analysis of this, you can ignore the resistance in the load circuit, but we’ll label it L. If the connecting wires for positive and negative are all the same gauge and length, then assume each connector has identical resistance R. Total resistance in each individual battery circuit is then: Batt1 = L +0R(positive) + 2R(negative) = L + 2R Batt2 = L + 1R(positive) + 1R(negative) = L + 2R Batt3 – L + 2R(positive) + 0R(negative) = L + 2R You can see that the middle Batt2 has exactly the same resistance between it and the load circuit, and should therefore deliver exactly the same amperage as the other two.

The Batt3 line has a typo and should read: Batt3 = L + 2R(positive) + 0R(negative) = L + 2R

It would be good if this article were updated with a disclaimer regarding the recommended wire gauge that one should use, to explain that this recommendation does NOT apply to an RV which includes an inverter to power AC accessories. In this case the wire gauge needs to be significantly larger since the amperage involved will be much higher. For example, for a system which includes a 2000W inverter and 3 batteries in parallel, the wires connecting to the load should be minimum 2/0 (two – ought) gauge and the short connecting wires between the batteries should be a minimum 1/0 gauge. Amperage to drive a 2000W inverter with 90% efficiency could be as high as 172A on the load wires and up to 2/3 of that figure on the short connecting wires (amperage assumes 12.8VDC battery voltage).

Thanks for all the great info Jeff.

I’ve updated the wire size section to recommend 2/0 wire for RV setups with inverters.

Hello. Thank you for the info, I currently have 4, 12v batteries hooked up that mimic your Graphic #5 above. I want to hook another 6 up for a total of 10. would you be able to provide me with an image for that? Thank you again for providing this awesome info.

For a battery bank of that size I recommend using the terminal post method in graphic 1.

Regarding your best way to connect multiple batteries in parallel. it seem to me when you use a common terminal for the positives and similarly for the negatives, that those batteries will discharge through the internal resistances of the other batteries.

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It can be done. If your RV or travel trailer needs more power, then you can get a second battery to give it a boost. The key will be to wire the batteries properly so you do not have a short . Wiring correctly is not hard to do.

All you have to do is make sure you have enough space in the battery compartment, add a new battery box to hold 2 batteries instead of one. Then wire the batteries in parallel fashion so there is no shorts or power drain. The batteries need to be the same as well.

To learn more about this option just continue to read our article. It has the information you want to know about in case you want to increase the power in your travel trailer. Take a few minutes to see how this information helps you.

Can I Add Another Battery To My RV?

This is a possibility and many RV owners have done just this. They bought two of the same batteries and hooked them up in parallel. They have not looked back since they installed the extra battery.

What the second battery does is share the load demand so your original battery does not have to work as hard. The key is to make sure the two batteries are the same age, type, and size.

If you want to connect a smaller battery then that is not going to be a good idea. It can discharge past the 50% mark quicker and also charge a lot quicker. The latter will cause an overcharge to the battery. When that happens it may boil the water away.

The current flow is to be as identical as possible between the two batteries. This enables them to age the same as well as provide the capacity you think you have by adding the second battery.

While it is possible to use an older battery, it is not recommended as you may damage the older one and not get the current flow you expected. If you are going to add a second battery, add two new ones that are exactly the same.

Should I Add a Second Battery To My RV?

The answer to this question would be do you need more power? That is the main reason why people add a second battery to their RVs or travel trailers. They usually do this for those times when they are camping without shore power.

When you add a second battery, you are not adding more amperage. That part of the electrical system remains the same. What you are adding is more voltage so you have more power to run the air conditioner when you are not connected to shore power.

Or when you want to run the microwave and another appliance at the same time. When you add the second battery, you will have to have it properly vented to make sure it does not overheat on you.

Everything you do for the original battery to keep it safe you need to do to your second battery. That will include buying a second battery box with proper attachments for ventilation and wires. Or you buy a battery box large enough to hold both batteries.

The extra power will come in handy especially with all those power features that are built-in or come with your trailer purchase. The RV makers may not add the second battery for you and it is something you have to do after you buy the trailer.

Installation is not hard but check first to make sure it won’t void your warranty.

What do You Need To Run a Second Battery?

All you need is the right wiring and have those wires connected in the proper sequence. If you are running those batteries in parallel, then you hook the second battery to positive then to the negative terminal on the original or first battery.

The negative will go to the ground. You will also need to have the second battery exactly the same as the first one. Do not add a new one and then attach it to the older original battery. This will cause some problems.

It is best to buy 2 new batteries that are the same and wire them in correctly. That is all there is to it. You get more power when you need it. It can’t be stressed enough that the batteries have to be the same age, model, type and so on.

What that means is you will want 2 12-volt batteries or 2 6-volt ones in the series. Plus, they need to be of the same group, amperage and size. If these factors are different you may see damage done to one or both of the batteries in a short time.

How To Add a Second Battery To My RV

There will be a couple of methods you can use and if you are not experienced in electrical processes, you should ask for help from an expert. We say that as one RV owner said to hook the positive of the second battery to the negative of the original, then the negative of the second battery goes to ground.

Another expert said to hook the positive of the second battery to the original battery’s positive terminal and the negative to the negative terminal of the original battery.

Both ways are okay to use and your expert will tell you why both can be used. When you get ready to do this task, make sure your travel trailer has room for a second battery. It is a common mistake not to check first.

When you go to do the wiring, make sure all the connections and cables are clean and rust or corrosion free. When you add the second battery, it is like adding the first one. You just put the wires where they need to go to make the system work. There are no secret tricks to employ or know about.

Adding a Second RV Battery

The first step in his process is to analyze your camping situation. You may have a generator for those times you do not have shore power or there is a black out. However, generators can be noisy and create enemies when turned on.

If you camp at campgrounds that always have shore power, then you probably will not need an extra battery. But if you camp where there is no shore power, then you probably will need an extra battery especially when you can’t use your generator.

Once you decide that5 you need that extra power, then look at your current battery. Even if it is a few months old, you should get 2 new batteries from the same group, with the same power and so on.

Connecting old with new batteries is not the best way to get that extra power and you will end up buying 2 new batteries eventually. Always try to get the same age, type and group batteries.

Dual RV Battery Setup

This is not going to be a problem as all you are dong is connecting one battery to the next one. It is a simple matter of hooking the power cables to the right terminals. As we said earlier, there are 2 methods you can use.

What some RV and travel trailer owners have done is to replace their standar4d 12-volt battery with 2- 6 volt models. The reason they do this is because the latter batteries usually are cheaper and they provide more amp hours than standard 12-volt batteries.

The best 6-volt battery provides over 300 amp hours of service while one of the largest 12-volt batteries only provides about 250 amp hours. If this is important to you, check your options before you buy.

To wire those batteries , you need to be careful. You will want to move the negative cable first to prevent and shorting of the system. To help you get those batteries wired right, go to this link .

The article there provides very detailed instructions, diagrams and other information we cannot put in this little section.

How To Wire 2 Batteries On a Travel Trailer

When you want the batteries to be in parallel with each other, you connect the positive terminal of the second battery to the positive terminal of the first battery. Then you connect the negative terminals together in the same way.

The second battery’s negative terminal is then connected to the ground. This is one way that we have described above. The second way we mentioned earlier is in series and it goes like this:

Connect the second battery’s positive terminal to the negative terminal of the first battery. Then the second battery’s negative terminal is connected to ground. That is all there is to this process.

If you are not comfortable with working with electricity, even with batteries, then get a professional to help you. You want to make sure the connections are done right so you do not have a problem when you are on the road.

People do try to find alternatives as one owner received this answer when he asked about using a battery that was not quite 6 months old: “. If the battery was left on the charger and remained charged, while also being continuously charged from its self-discharge, then the battery cells would’ve been continuously stimulated and have most likely degraded a bit. I would estimate that you’d run into issues within the first two years of use with a second battery.”

While using an older battery will save you money, you have to think about degradation in the cells before you make the connections.

Adding a Third Battery To My RV

Some RV owners have done this as they found that two batteries was not enough power when they camper without shore power. As you will see by the wiring diagrams in the next section, the wiring is not any different than if you are connecting 2 batteries together.

The first step is to buy a large enough battery box. One at an RV dealer, etc., can run you over $100 but you can use a normal plastic bin to do the same thing. That bin may cost you under $10.

If you go the bin route, you will have to carefully drill some vent holes. Those vent holes will have to be large enough to hold PVC tubing. Then drill large enough holes in the lid for PVC tubing and to allow for airflow.

Next, you will need to drill some smaller holes for those positive and negative cables to reach where they are to be connected. You do not need holes for the cables going from batteries #3 to #2, and #2 to #1.

Some people put foam around the edge of the bin to cut down on vibration, etc. Once you are done with the holes, make your connections and put the lid on.

Dual RV Battery Wiring Diagram

Here are diagrams for 2 and more batteries in parallel and in series for you to look at. The first one will be for 2 batteries connected together.

The second diagram gives you a more complicated diagram and has more batteries than three but you should get the idea of how to hook them up.

Pay close attention to the second diagram as it shows the wiring for 6-volt batteries.

Some Final Words

Getting extra power is not that hard, nor is it that expensive. All you need are two batteries that are the same and connect them in the right way way. You can decide if you want 6-volt batteries or 12-volt options.

Just pick the one that is right for your camping situation. Then follow the diagrams and instructions on how to set them up and connect them. There is no shame if you do not like working with electricity. Just hire someone who is competent and knows what they are doing.

There should be room in your travel trailer for at least 2 batteries.

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Staying Connected

A series of online conversations via virtual roundtables that will help you keep a pulse on the travel industry and hear from your peers on the current climate and future thinking.

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“The webinar was super helpful! Thank you for all you do to keep us in the know and prepared for the inevitable recovery.  Definitely keep us on your list for all your industry updates.  We’ll be sharing the recommendations with our Colorado destination partners and lodging properties.”

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Staying Connected with the Family Travel Association

 Thursday, December 9, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

Join us as we “Connect” with panelists to discuss the Family Travel market and how you can inspire families to discover what’s possible through travel.

Panelists Include:

• Jennifer Spatz, Global Family Travels
• Amy Urquhart, Pure Magic Vacations
• Carylann Assante, CAE – CEO, SYTA & FTA Treasurer and Board Member
• Rainer Jenss, Founder, Family Travel Association

Staying Connected with places.

 Thursday, May 20, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

Join us as we “Connect” with panelists to discuss the benefits of partnership and their ongoing operational strategies on their Road to Recovery.

• Marina Petrova, CEO / Co-Founder, places.
• Bruce Amick, COO, places.
• Jonathan Elkoubi, CCO, places.

Staying Connected with CVC Corp

 Thursday, May 13, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• Fernanda Barbosa Paranhos, North America Product Manager, CVC Corp
• Nathalia Pacheco de Oliveira Moura, Planning and Development Product Manager, CVC Corp  

Staying Connected with SYTA & Student Tour Operators

 Thursday, May 6, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

Join us as we “Connect” with Carylann Assante, Executive Director, Student Youth Travel Association, and student tour operators located globally to discuss the Student Travel Industry’s Road to Recovery.

• Carylann Assante, CAE, CEO, SYTA and SYTA Youth Foundation
• Steve Maehl, Vice President, Global Travel Alliance and SYTA President – United States
• Marci Ellison Outerbridge, Vice President, Ellison Travel & Tours and SYTA Board of Director – Canada
• Max Ortega, Deputy CEO, Mundo Joven – Mexico
• Adele Youngs, Director and Co-Founder, Live Travel and Tours and SYTA Vice President – United Kingdom
• Shannan Carter, Global Business Development Manager, Live Travel and Tours – Australia and New Zealand
• Avan Goel, CEO, RIAM Explorers – India

 Thursday, April 29, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• Gisa Kusserow-Hanson, Senior Product Manager, ATP
• Jennie Bradford Curlee, TMP, Public Relations/International Sales Director, Tupelo Convention and Visitors Bureau
• Joseph Marinelli, President, Visit Savannah

 Thursday, April 22, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• Lindsay Hill, Senior Manager, Tourism Sales, Destination DC
• Mary Rinaldo, Regional VP – Mid Atlantic, City Cruises
• Rebecca Roberts, Curator of Programming, Planet Word Museum
• Kristen DeSimone, Director of Marketing, MARS and Companies

 Thursday, April 15, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• Bertille Hocquet, Managing Director – Groups & Incentive, Contact USA
• Pauline Deschenes, FIT, Contact USA
• Nimesh Amlani, General Manager – India, Global Holidays USA
• Rajesh Surti, Senior Consultant, Global Holidays USA

 Thursday, April 8, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• Tico Soto, President, Tourism Tactics By Tico
• Tanya Leader, Vice President of Sales, Louisiana Northshore Convention and Visitors Bureau
• Kathy Formosa, Product Manager, AmericanTours International

Staying Connected with NYC and Company

 Thursday, April 1, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

• John Marshall, Director Tourism Market Development, NYC and Company
• David Filipiak, Director of Sales, Fotografiska – New York
• Taylor Spoelstra, Senior Sales Manager, Artechouse – New York
• Courtenay Betts (she/her), Senior Sourcing and Contracting Manager, EF Explore America

1-Year Anniversary of Staying Connected

 Thursday, March 25, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

Join us as we “Connect” with past panelists to see what has changed on their Road to Recovery. Panelists Include:

• Timo Kohlenberg, President & CEO, America Unlimited GmbH
• Stephanie Brooks, Director, Contracting, Globus Voyagers Inc. (dba Globus family of brands)
• Jackie Ennis, Vice President, Global Markets, The Brand USA
• Will Seccombe, Presiden & CEO, Connect Travel

Staying Connected with GetYourGuide

 Thursday, March 18, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT 

Join us as we “Connect” with panelists to discuss the benefits of partnership and their ongoing operational strategies on their Road to Recovery. Panelists Include:

• Sarah Lowe, Destination Manager, Canada East & Florida
• Lauren Hillhouse, Destination Manager, Hawaii
• Tilly Hemperger, Senior Destination Manager, New York City
• Kate Semenova, Senior Destination Manager, Western Canada & Mountain West

Staying Connected with Tour Operators

• Cathy Williaume, Director Associate, REVAMERICA TOURS
• Emmanuelle Vaugeois Bolanos, Founder, Scenic Roads

Thursday, March 4, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Catherine Meyer, Springfield Team Lead, Brightspark by WorldStrides
• Jim Warren, US Groups Specialist, Anderson Vacations  

Thursday, Feb 25, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Suzanne Kinahan, Product Director, Collette
• LouAnna Henton, Senior Tourism Sales Manager, Nashville Convention & Visitors Corp
• Urte Land, CSTP – President,  AdvantEdge Tours LLC
• Kelly Field, General Manager, Madame Tussauds Nashville

Thursday, Feb 18, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join us as we “Connect” with the Tourism Expert Network (TEN) to discuss the benefits of partnership and how these tourism veterans came together to support the industry they love on its Road to Recovery. Panelists Include:

• Alfredo Gonzalez, Founding Partner
• Rafael Villanueva, Founding Partner
• Faith Selk, Founding Partner
• Ashlee Ciora, Founding Partner
• Mike Fullerton, Founding Partner
• Jennifer  Bartlett-Henriquez, Founding Partner
• Robert Kaufman, Founding Partner

Thursday, February 11, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Lezlie Harper, Founder, Niagara Bound Tours
• Ally Spongr, Interim Director, Niagara Falls Underground Railroad Heritage Centre Museum
• George Scott, President, Colored Musicians’ Club

Thursday, Feb 4, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Melody Jordan, Owner, Front Line Tours
• Jamie Lynn Thompson, President & CEO, Southern Escape Tours

Thursday, January 28, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Amy DeFrancesco, National Sales Manager, Drury Hotels
• Jenny Keeton, Director of Operations, Village Travel
• Tod DeHart, Founder, DIRECTIONS Tours LLC

Connect with Canadian Tour Operators

Thursday, January 21, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Nadine Paulo, VP, Product & Procurement, Kensington Tours
• Sash Munjal, General Manager, ShortTrips.ca

Road to Recovery

Thursday, January 14, 2021 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Pabs Raghava, CEO, Tours Limited 
• Radhika Tripurani, Sr. Director of Public Relations and Digital Marketing, Tours Limited
• Madhavi Chimalapati, Sr. Director of Sales and Marketing, Tours Limited
• Julie Payne, CTP, CTIS, Tourism Enhancement Specialist, Hershey’s Chocolate World
• Audrey Bialas, Director of Sales, Visit Hershey & Harrisburg 

Connect Travel’s “Staying Connected” Webinar Series – Year in Review

Thursday, December 17, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT  

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“Re-Connecting” on the Future of Travel Trade Events

Thursday, December 10, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Carylann Assante, CAE, CEO, Student & Youth Travel Association
• Peter J. Pantuso, CTIS, President & CEO, American Bus Association
• Will Seccombe, President & CEO, Connect Travel
• Malcolm Smith, Senior Vice President Business Development & IPW General Manager, U.S. Travel Association

Connect With Tour Operators

December 3, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Marina Petrova, Founder, places.events
• Tereza Reis, President, Personal RGE Tours
• Dave Falsetti, Regional Director – Americas, Musement   

Thursday, November 19, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Chris Pilley, CEO, Rocky Mountain Holiday Tours, LLC
• Jeremy Butzlaff, President, MTRWestern
• Umang Malbari, President, Discover-Destinations  

Connect with Tour Operators

• Marko Manojlovic, Amadeo Travel Solutions
• Tomás Rey, President, Rey Royal
• Dustin G. Teichman, President/CEO, Good Times Travel, Inc.

Thursday, November 5, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT  

• Kristine Geary, President & CEO, Maple Leaf Tours
• Chloé Dumont-Samson, Sales & Marketing Manager, Ruby Range Adventure

Thursday, October 29, 2020 | 2 p.m. EDT  

• Michael Marzano, President, FM TOURS 
• Peio Cuevas, VP Operations & Business Development,  SEEUSATOURS.COM  
• Tim Ulutin, Managing Partner, Incoming America

Connect with Domestic Tour Operators

Thursday, October 22, 2020 | 2 p.m. EDT

Join us as we “Connect” with panelists to discuss potential changes with their ongoing operational strategies. Panelists Include:

• Stephanie Brooks, Director of Contracting, The Globus family of brands (Globus, Cosmos, Monograms, Avalon) 

Connect with Itinerary Planning Experts

Thursday, October 15, 2020 | 2 p.m. EDT

Join us to learn steps our panelists use to create and plan unique itineraries that sell. Panelists Include:

• Karin Omojola, Vice President of Product, AmericanTours International, LLC
• Sean Bayliss, President and CEO, International Tourism Resources Group  

Connect with Expedia 

Thursday, October 8, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Exploring Current Traveler Sentiment and Trends

• Derek E. Price, Director of Business Development – North America, Expedia Group™ Media Solutions

Connect & ReConnect with Domestic Tour Operators 

Thursday, September 24, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join us as we “Connect & ReConnect” with panelists to discuss potential changes with their ongoing operational strategies. Panelists Include:

• Julie Katz, Owner, TourMappers North America, LLC
• Lauren Grote, Tour/Travel Director, Rills Bus Service
• Elaine Moulder, Owner, Brilliant Edventures  

Thursday, September 17, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Keith Snode, Chief Operating Officer, Kaleidoscope Adventures
• Rich Bradley, CTA, President & CEO, Original Orlando Tours
• Jennifer Simpson, Chief Experience Officer, Bespoke Experiences 
• Steve Maehl, Vice President Field Operations, Global Travel Alliance
• Matthew Granger, Director of Sales, Guardian Music and Group Travel

Connect with Hotelbeds

Thursday, September 10, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Renata Cenni, Regional Manager Southwest, Hotelbeds
• Bill Chambers – Regional Manager Rest of West, Hawaii & Canada
• Roberta Chiappero, Area Yield Manager Southwest, Hotelbeds
• Alice Kilpatrick, Regional Manager Southeast, Hotelbeds
• Aline Magalhaes, Area Yield Manager – Northeast, Hotelbeds
• Ruben Mordan, Area Contract Manager – South East, Hotelbeds
• Joseph Sheller, Head of Partner Marketing, Hotelbeds
• Jayne Stones, Head of Sourcing USA and Canada, Beyond The Bed | Hotelbeds 

Connect & ReConnect with Domestic Tour Operators

Thursday, September 3, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Mellonee Owenby, President, Christian Tours/Burke International Tours
• Nick Hentschel, COO, AmericanTours International  
• Joey Spellerberg, President, Moostash Joe Tours

Connect with AAA

Thursday, August 27, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join us as we Connect with AAA Clubs to discuss best partnership practices and potential changes with their ongoing operational strategies. Panelists Include:

• Michael Ziegler, Director, Strategic Partnerships, AAA Northeast
• Samantha Hargis, Travel Agent, AAA Ohio Auto Club  

Post Paralysis – Being a Smarter, Faster, Quicker DMO

Wednesday, August 19, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Alisa Bailey, President, Alisa Bailey Consulting Travel & Tourism
• David Downing, President of Brand, United Landmark Associates
• Josh Collins, Director, Destination Activation + Marketing, Streetsense

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Connect with International Tour Operators

Thursday, August 20, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join us as we “Connect” with panelists from the UK and Irish markets to discuss the current climate and potential changes with their ongoing operational strategies. Hear From:

• Liz Wright, Product Manager, TourAmerica
• Alain Kasteleyn, Director and Product Manager, Discover North America
• Stam Tzafos, Product Manager USA & Europe, THG Holidays  

Thursday, August 13, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Jann Parker, CEO, Travelinfo2Go
• Dennis Lyons, Vice President/ Coach & Tour Group, DATTCO
• Cynthia Billette, Owner, Columbia Crossroads
• James Rider, Owner, Group Tours USA  

Thursday, August 6, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Mr. Romeo Dublin, Inbound Sales Department,  Nippon Travel Agency America, Inc
• Mr. Shunji Uchida, Inbound Sales Department,  Nippon Travel Agency America, Inc
• Mr. Toshi Koseki, General Manager,  TTA, INC.

Agility and Fast Marketing

Wednesday, August 5, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Brian Wagner, Assistant Commissioner, Marketing, Tennessee Tourism
• Scott Schult, Executive Vice President of Marketing, Visit Myrtle Beach
• Josh Collins, Director, Destination Activation + Marketing, Streetsense  

Thursday, July 30, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Claire Doherty, Product Director, Travel Department
• Maggi Smit, Managing Director, America As You Like It  
• Susan Stiner, Head of Purchasing North America, WebBeds

Connect with Travel Agents

Thursday, July 23, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Mickey McBride, Director of Partner Engagement and Development, Avoya Travel
• Beth Hill, CEO, Mangata Travel
• Anneke M. Marchese, Owner & Travel Designer, AM/FM Leisure & Adventure Travel

Pivot and Innovation in Travel: More Than Just Buzzwords

Wednesday, July 22, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Original 2020 marketing plans have been thrown out. Join the conversation about new ideas tourism marketers should consider for the remainder of the year and 2021.    

• Ann Marie Maher, CDME, Director of Tourism, Prince William County Office of Tourism 
• Sonya Bradley, Chief Marketing Officer, Visit Sacramento 

Connect & Reconnect with Receptive Tour Operators 

Thursday, July 16, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Tresie Benoit, Director Contracting North America, W2M
• Kari Bigot, GTP, VP, Head of North America Sales, ALTOUR
• Chris Ellis, CEO, 7M Travel Holdings
• Faisal Sublaban, SVP of Hotels for Internova Travel Group and CEO of Bonotel Exclusive Travel

Coming out of the Shutdown: There will be winners and losers. Where will you land?

Wednesday, July 8, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Will Seccombe, President and CEO, Connect Travel
• Josh Collins, Director Destination Activations and Marketing, Streetsense

When is the “Right Time” to market and sell to the trade?

Thursday, June 25, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Laurel Bennett, CTIS, Vice President, Tourism Sales, Nashville Convention & Visitors Corp
• Liliana Rivera, Senior Director of Tourism, VisitDallas
• Roxanna Torrens, Senior Director of Travel Industry Sales, earlenterprises®
• Jodi Cumming, Senior Director of Tourism Development, PIER 39
• Julie Payne, CTP, CTIS, President, Attractour
• Isaac Pacheco, Director of Sales, National September 11 Memorial & Museum
• Daniel Schwartz, Director, Global Tourism Development, San Francisco Travel Association

Think Differently: How Do We Balance Industry Demands with Resident Sentiment?

Wednesday, June 24, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join this important conversation focused on the role that the travel industry and DMO’s play in the post pandemic economic and community recovery plans. Panelists Include:

• Valerie Bradley, Vice President Marketing, Visit Macon
• Ali Daniels, Senior Vice President / Chief Marketing Officer, Visit Seattle
• Amrita Gurney, Vice President of Marketing, CrowdRiff  
• Genyne Edwards, Partner, P3 Development Group
• Steve Paganelli, Head of Destination Marketing, Americas, TripAdvisor

Connect with Student Tour Operators

Thursday, June 18, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Bryan Cole, President, Super Holiday Tours
• Keith Snode, Chief Operating Officer, Kaleidoscope Adventures 

Should There Be A New ROI for Travel & Tourism?

Wednesday, June 17, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

• Gathan Borden, Vice President of Marketing, VisitLEX
• Justin Bresler, Vice President, Marketing and Business Development, Visit Denver 
• Susan Whitaker, Principal, Whitaker Travel & Tourism Strategies
• Mitch Whitten, Executive Vice President for Marketing & Strategy, Visit Fort Worth

Connect with Domestic Operators

Thursday, June 11, 2020 | 1 p.m. EDT

Join domestic tour operators to discuss the latest on the current climate and what preparations are underway to move forward.  

• Charlene Troggio, Owner, Breakaway Tours
• Suzanne Slavitter CTP, CTIE, Owner, Sports Empire Inc. / Authentic California Vacations
• Gary L. Haverkamp, CTC, Product Manager, Vacations By Rail – A Great Rail Journeys Company

The Story Behind the Numbers: Where Are We Going?

• Jamie Lane, Sr. Director, Economics & Forecasting, CBRE
• Jay Kinghorn, Entrada Insights
• Allison Schult, Principal & Chief Navigator, Mile Marker 630
• Josh Collins, Director Destination Activations and Marketing, Streetsense  

The Future of Travel Trade Events

Trade events and conferences remain a vital role in our industry. Connect with industry leaders to hear how events will evolve moving forward. Panelists include: 

• Malcolm Smith, Senior Vice President Business Development & IPW General Manager, U.S. Travel Association 

Think Differently: It is time for DMOs to work with Local Tours, Activities, Attractions & Experiences 

• Robert Graff, Vice President Sales & Marketing, Bindlestiff Tours- National Parks Adventures
• Maureen Haley, Vice President of Strategic Tourism Initiatives, Visit Houston
• Jay Judal, Director of Outside Sales, San Diego Zoo
• Mo Parikh, CEO, Bandwango
• Eric Thompson, Vice President of Marketing, Visit Salt Lake
• Bruce Rosard, Co-founder & COO,  Arival Will Seccombe, President, Connect Travel

Thursday, May 28, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. EDT

• Dave Cecco, Director of Product, WestJet Vacations
• Jeff Karnes, Executive Vice President, New World Travel
• Michael Marzano, President, FM Tours
• Ernesto Tecco, Group Manager | Business Partner, 5A Incentive Planners

How to Connect Arts, Culture, Heritage and Performance Experiences into the Current Travel Climate 

Wednesday, may 27, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. edt.

• Staci Mellman, Chief Marketing Officer,  VISIT FLORIDA
• Richard Peterson, President & CEO,  U.S. Cultural & Heritage Marketing Council
• Seth Spillman, Chief Marketing & Communications Officer,  National Cowboy Museum
• Josh Collins, Director Destination Activations and Marketing,  Streetsense

Developing Product Post-COVID

Thursday, may 21, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. edt.

• Jackie Ennis, Vice President Global Trade Development, Brand USA
• Paul Winkle, Sr. Vice President Global Marketing, Miles Partnership

How Destinations are Using Social Media Now and into the Next Normal

Wednesday, may 20, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. edt.

• Adam Stoker, President/CEO,  Relic Agency
• Anastasia Straley, Destination Social Media Manager
• Katie Utken, Digital Marketing Manager,  Hamilton County Tourism Inc.
• Liz Mabe, Director of Digital Marketing, Discover Puerto Rico

Thursday, May 14, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. EDT

• Elvi Cal, Vice President Product Development, TravelBrands Inc.
• Wolfgang Hendrix, CEO,  Wolf Consultancy BV | UStravel.nl | CanadaTravel.nl

Crisis into Marketing Opportunity: Timo Kohlenberg Tells You what you Shouldn’t miss!

Friday, may 8, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. edt.

Sponsored by TourOperatorLand.com

Connect with Canadian and Mexican Tour Operators Virtual Roundtable

Thursday, May 7, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. EDT

• Karla Urias, Owner, PasswordTravel.com | ViajaTravel.com
•  Alberto Cervera, Head of Mexico, TUI GROUP

Connect with DMOs from Around the U.S. 

Wednesday, April 8, 2020 | 1:00 p.m. EDT

Our first marketing virtual roundtable brings together brand experts and DMOs to discuss planning for destination marketing in the post coronavirus landscape. Our panelists include:

• Zeek Coleman, Director of Data Intelligence, Visit Savannah
• Jeff Robinson, Director of Marketing, Visit Indy
• Will Seccombe, President, Connect Travel

My rookie mistake: not linking flight reservations

My number one piece of advice for booking airfare is to always search for only one ticket, even if you need three or four seats.

Airlines have odd pricing systems. Let's say there are two seats left at $99 and then the next cheapest ticket is $120. If you search for four seats, all four will price at the higher $120 cost.

This is all about how many tickets are left in a fare class or "bucket."

So a trick to save some money is to buy two tickets at $99 on one reservation and the other two at the $120 price on another reservation.

That usually works unless there is a massive schedule change, storm, mechanical problem or some other delay.

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Back in March, I booked a trip on Delta Air Lines from New York (JFK) to Cancun (CUN) for my family for the 2021 February school break. Airlines typically open up flight schedules 330 days in advance and I wanted to get a good mileage flight before others booked during the popular travel week.

(We will see if we actually take the trip based on how the fight against coronavirus goes. But as a Diamond Medallion elite member, I can redeposit my miles for free up to 72 hours in advance — the perfect pandemic insurance policy . The hotel was also booked on points with a flexible cancellation policy.)

For the flight down, I found three tickets together at the same mileage cost. But for the return, it was cheaper to book two reservations. I booked one ticket for my wife at 27,000 miles one way in first class. My daughter and I each paid 47,000 miles for our one-way first class tickets. (Not the best use of miles but the flexibility here is key for me.)

Normally, I would then call Delta and link the two reservations. That way, if there are any changes, the airline will hopefully try to keep my family together.

Well, blame it on my exhausted, pandemic mind but I failed to do that. There were also some pretty bad wait times at Delta's call center back in March.

Fast forward to September and I got the schedule change email. At first, it didn't look bad. My daughter and my mid-afternoon flight was shifted 20 minutes. Then I looked at my wife's ticket. She was moved to the morning flight.

I called the airline and sure enough the flight was sold out in first class. So was Comfort+.

Delta was able to downgrade my wife to coach. The agent was about to give me back the difference from her 27,000-mile first class ticket and the new mileage price for coach. Then she priced it out: 74,000 miles, one way for coach. So no difference in miles but she was given a $200 travel voucher for a future trip and is still able to move up to first, if a seat opens up for sale.

Bottom line

The splitting up of my family could have been easily avoided. I tried to save money by booking two separate tickets. That was the right call. But then I should have immediately called up Delta to link the reservations together. That would have kept us all together when the schedule change occurred. It's something that I've done countless times but failed to this one trip and it hurt me.

RV Full Hookups with Dual Sewer Hoses – How To

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Does your RV have 2 sewer connections?  Do you know the best way to connect them at a full hookup campsite?  The key to connecting 2 sewer hoses at once is the Y-Connector.  I have been using the Rhino Sewer Y-Connector .  This makes it possible to connect all of my waste tanks to the sewer at the same time instead of moving 1 sewer hose back and forth.

Now that you have the quick answer I’ll share my full setup with you and a few more tips for your sewer system.  Even if you only have 1 sewer connection on your RV you will still find some useful information here so keep on reading.

Why does your RV need 2 sewer hoses?

If your RV has more than one bathroom, there’s a good chance it also has 2 sewer connections.  This is because RV manufacturers like to locate the black tank directly below the toilet (I’m sure you can figure out why).  If you have 2 toilets the only way to do this is to install 2 black tanks.  This usually results in having 2 gray tanks as well.  In my RV, the kitchen and rear bathroom sink share a gray tank. In the front, the main bathroom sink, and shower share a gray tank.  Each bathroom also has its own black tank.

Having dual sewer connections can be useful when you are boondocking or staying at a water / electric site because you likely have 2x the capacity of a comparable RV with only 1 sewer dump connection.

Tips for Full Hookup Sewer Connections

The following tips will apply for any RV whether you have 1, 2 or more sewer connections.

Necessary Equipment

Obviously, you need a sewer hose, but there are a few other items you should have to keep everything flowing smoothly if you know what I mean.

• Sewer Hose Support – You could just let your sewer hose lay on the ground, but if the sewer hose connection at your campsite is uphill or sticking out of the ground your hose won’t drain. Sewer hose supports are relatively inexpensive and make it easy to get everything sloped downhill.

To use the support just set it out on the ground with the tall end at your camper’s sewer connection and stretch it out until the short end reaches the sewer drain in the ground.  Then set your hose on top.

• 4-in-1 Sewer Adapter – This part creates a sealed connection between your sewer hose and the connection at the campsite. Some sewer hoses like the Rhino Flex, include this adapter as part of the hose.  For other hoses you will need to purchase it separately.  The adapter has several different threads to connect to different size drains on one end and a sewer hose connection on the other end.  This will keep the nasty sewer odor contained, because no one wants to smell that when sitting around a campfire.

After your connected you will need to dump your tanks.  For more tips on how that is done read this article .

What else do you need for an RV with 2 sewer connections?

Technically nothing, for the first year I had my 5 th wheel I would move the sewer hose back and forth between the 2 dump locations every time I needed to empty the tanks.  This got old fast, the last thing I wanted to do while camping was play with a sewer hose every day or two.  For 1 night stays I still do it this way, but if I’m staying longer I have a better solution.

Connecting both sewer hoses at the same time

If you want to connect both hoses, you need a few more things.

• Y-Adapter – This is the key to getting everything connected. An RV sewer Y-Adapter (or Wye-Fitting) connects 3 sewer hoses together.
• 2 nd Sewer Hose – This gets your second RV connection to the Wye
• 2 nd Sewer Hose Support – Most likely you will need an second hose support for the additional sewer hose. I have 1 long support that is was able to separate into 3 sections so I can move them around depending on the layout of the campsite
• 3 rd Sewer Hose or 4-in-1 Elbow – Lastly you need to get from the Y-adapter to the hole in the ground. I carry both parts with me.  If the campsite drain is in between the 2 dump connections on my camper I adjust the hoses so that the Y-Adapter is next to the drain and use the elbow to make the connection.  If the drain is close to either the front or back or if it’s farther away, I connect a sewer hose to the outlet side of the Y-Adapter and run that to the drain.

The picture below shows my typical setup It includes all the parts listed in the 2 sections above.  In this case I used the 3rd sewer hose.

This picture shows the setup with the 4-in-1 Elbow attached directly to the Y-adapter

Here are links to all the products I use.  If you purchase using the links below I receive a small commission at no extra cost to you.

• Sewer Hose (with built-in 4-in-1 elbow)
• Extension Hose (I have 2 of these)
• Sewer Y-Adapter
• 45 Degree Connector (I use this on my rear connection because of its position and angle)
• 4-in-1 Sewer Elbow
• Sewer Hose Support

You can also Click Here to see my Resource Page for some of the other gear I use.

Common RV Sewer and Waste Tank Questions and Answers

Here are a few more tips for your RV’s waste tanks.

Should I leave my camper’s dump valves open with full hookups?

Leaving the valves open seems convenient right? You will never have to worry about dumping your tanks, everything will naturally flow to the drain.

Leaving your gray tank valve open is usually fine, but don’t to this with the black tank.  You need a decent amount of water to get all the solid waste out of your black tank.  You also need water in the tank to allow that solid waste to bread down so it can flow more easily.  If you are going to leave your gray tank open you should also avoid putting solids down the kitchen sink, otherwise you will have the same problem.  Once solids dry in the tank they will be much harder to remove.

If you are camping for a few days, it’s fine to leave the gray tank open for a while.  When your black tank starts to get over ¾ full, close the gray tank valve and let the sink and shower water build up.  That way you will have “clean” water to flush your sewer hose with after dumping the black tank.

How do you flush an RV’s black tank?

Simply draining your RV’s black tank isn’t always enough to flush all solids out of the tank.  This is where tank flush systems come in.  One way to know you tank needs flushed is if your tank monitor reads full immediately after draining it.  When it’s possible I flush my tank every time I empty it.

There are several ways to flush an RV’s tank.

• Tank mounted Sprayers – These are permanently installed in the black tank and have a garden hose connection somewhere on your RV.
• Spray Wands – Hand-held wand that is connected to a hose and inserted through your RV’s toilet.
• Dump Valve mounted sprayers- Attach to your sewer connection and have a garden hose fitting to flush water backwards into the tank.

Each of these systems works, but some are better than others.  I prefer tank mounted sprayers over the other options.  If you don’t have one of these, you can install it yourself.  I did that on my last RV and it only took about 30 minutes to get the job done.  I like the Camco Quickie Flush it doesn’t have any moving parts and sprays in all directions.

Wands like the Camco Flexible Swivel Stick also do a good job of cleaning your tank, but they are more of a hassle to use.  You need a longer hose that will reach into you camper’s bathroom and then you must store the wand when you are done.

My least favorite is dump valve mounted sprayers.  I would only consider versions that have a shutoff valve like the Valterra Flush King . The problem with this type is they don’t really spray into the tank, there are just too many twists and turns between the sewer connection and the tank itself.  Using one with a valve you can fill your black tank in reverse and then drain it out.  Repeating the process several times may remove most solids, but it just isn’t as effective as the other methods.

Should you use tank chemicals / toilet treatments

Yes.  I use the TST Orange tank chemicals .  Using a  chemical in your black tank will reduce odor and help break down tissue and others solids in the tank.  The “single serving” sized containers are easy to use, but I just get the 1 gallon size and pour a few ounces in after each “dump”.  It can also be used on your gray tank if you start to develop an odor there, but I usually don’t.

3 More things you shouldn’t go without

These last 3 items aren’t directly involved in your sewer connection, but play an important role.

• Rubber Gloves – I keep a box of disposable rubber gloves in my storage compartment to use any time I am handling the sewer hoses or fittings.
• Hand Sanitizer – I keep this right next to the gloves just in case.
• Collapsible water Hose – I have a hose that that is used for flushing my black tanks. You should never use your drinking water hose for flushing your tanks, especially at dump stations where the water is usually non-potable.  Click here to see the fresh water setup I use .

Hopefully this article helped you understand a little more about how your RV’s sewer system works and how to hook it up.  If you still have questions about how to do something or about any of the products I mentioned please leave them in the comments below.  If you found this article helpful, can you help me out and share it on your favorite social media platform.

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Thanks for reading and Happy Camping,

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Hi Jason, I’m Mike and my wife and I have owned over the years 3 different Class A diesel pusher motor homes at about 40 feet each. My wife the kids and I got into RVing many years ago but those were also our hard working days where we only had time to really go someplace about once a month. Now we are retired without kids and are going to buy a 5th wheel that also is about 40 foot long with several slide outs and live in it full time for a quite a while until we decide when and where we want settle down. It is going to be a bath and a half and I didn’t even think to see if they all have two black water drains and two grey water drains. So thanks for the education about how to best deal with them and what to look for while shopping around for one.

Thanks again, Mike

Mike, I hadn’t considered the sewer hookups until we were about to pickup our 5th wheel. I glad the article was helpful and good luck in your search. Let me know if you have any questions I can help with. Thanks, Jason

my friends RV has 3 dump sections, so the ‘Y’ is great for the 2, but what about the 3rd gray tank that isn’t connected to the sewer?

Rena, I thought I had it rough with 2 outlets to deal with. They could connect 2 “Y’s” and bring all 3 hoses together, but that’s a lot of hoses and fittings to carry around. If they aren’t staying in 1 place for a long time, I would probably just connect the 2 that need dumped most often and switch one of the hoses when the 3rd tank needs dumped. Jason

I have a 31ft bumper hitch with the bedroom in the very back the kitchen area in the very front the bathroom is right in the middle 1 slide out super slide out and it has two sewer hookups to it I only want to use one will it drain the kitchen sink also

Howard, My guess is that the kitchen connects to the tank in the front and the bathroom sink and shower run the the rear hookup. The best thing to do would be to hookup the front connection to a sewer and run some water in the kitchen with the valve open, then you will know for sure if that is the tank it’s connected to. I hope that helps, Jason

Can you tell me how long of a sewer hose I need for a 33 foot fifth wheeler with bathroom up front and one in rear? I need to get new ones and am not sure. Will 20 be ok for front? For rear 10 or 15. My camper is in storage at beach. Thanks!

Corlis, I would suggest using a 15′ or 20′ for each. The reason is you never know if the sewer hookup at a campsite will be near the front, back or middle of the RV. If you use a long hose for each that will give you the most flexibility to line things up. Thanks for the question, Jason

We have the same problem as Rena – three sewer connections. We used a Y to connect to the black/grey sewer outlet and the washer sewer outlet. We are using a garden hose connected to the galley sewer outlet to empty that tank. We figured that we really didn’t need the large sewer hose. We definitely need the larger sewer hoses for the washer gray tank and bathroom gray and black tanks. Two of our sewer outlets are under slides so it makes it hard to reach under and release them. You would think the manufacturer would have taken that into consideration.

Sometimes it seems like the manufacturers don’t consider how we will actually use our RV’s, doesn’t it? Jason

Where am I supposed to store the Wye and other stuff that does not fit into my bumper storage? Even if rinsed its nasty stuff.Thanks

Derek, I store it all in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid that I got from a home improvement store. Jason

My 5th wheel has 2 sewer outlets, one in the rear, and the other midway. I was thinking of hard piping them together and only having one sewer outlet. I’ve tried googling this and cant find where anyone has done it. Do you think it would work?

I look for ways to tie mine together as well. My problem is I would have to go past the axles and there’s just not enough room to do it and keep all the clearances I need.

Hi Jason I’m new to the camping world. I bought a use 2013 V-Lite Flagstaff with two bathrooms. So I have two black and two gray tanks. I’m at a permanent campsite. There is only one connection to the sewer. So I would have three lines coming out of the camera. Two sewer and one gray. How would you connect the lines into on sewer and would you keep black tanks close and then release every couple of days? Unfortunately our black tank Valves are under the slide outs. Thanks Wanda

If you don’t plan on moving the camper, I would try to connect them all together using PVC drain pipe. Then I would still keep the black valves closed until the tanks fill up. Otherwise you will end up with waste sticking and building up in the tank. You could look at adding electric or remote operated valves so you don’t have to crawl under the camper. Thanks Jason

I think I can top them all. I just purchased a Forest River 42QBQ and it has 4 separate drain locations for the tanks. I’m waiting until it’s delivered to my permanent site to figure out how I’m going to connect them all into my one sewer connection. Most likely will use PVC to connect at least some of the drains together and try to get down to 1 hose off the PVC into the sewer. Worst case may have to run 2 hoses into a Y at the sewer.

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All The Ways To Attach Luggage Together

Long trips are fun. You get to spend weeks in a new place enjoying yourself, but only after you’ve gone through the tiring experience of getting there. And long trips usually mean more than one suitcase even if you’re a pro at packing .

You’ve either seen or been one of those people at the airport with three different suitcases and a carry on bag, trying to hold the passport and boarding ticket with their teeth. All of that can easily be avoided if you just attach all those different bags and suitcases together, so that you can maneuver them with one hand!

This detailed guide will cover all the basic ways of hooking luggage together, as well as some tips on how to get creative if your favorite bags don’t have those convenient luggage straps.

Bags With A Luggage Strap

When I was younger, I would get the biggest purse I own and throw all of the items I needed handy in it. And that was fine, until I had to juggle the bag, the suitcase, the coffee and the passport. The main issue was that my favorite bag for travel wasn’t actually meant for travel, so it didn’t have a luggage strap in the back.

Bags that have a luggage strap in the back are a must when you’re travelling with multiple pieces of luggage. You just pull that strap over the retractable wheel handle, and the bag is secured to the top of your bigger suitcase. Now you’re juggling two pieces of luggage with one hand, and your other hand is free to hold your phone, coffee, passport or whatever.

But what if none of your travel bags have a convenient luggage strap in the back? You can always get creative and make one yourself! You need a wide strap of durable fabric, a sewing kit and just some basic sewing skills. Alternatively, you could use a belt or just some basic rope to secure the bag on top of your suitcase and make your travels a bit more comfortable.

Smaller Bag On Top Of Suitcase

This depends on the exact make and model of a particular bag, but usually, you will see luggage straps in laptop bags, underseat bags, smaller duffels and even some backpacks . Samsonite’s Guardit backpack is a great example of this, with a convenient luggage strap in the back that doesn’t interfere with the feature you would use on a daily basis.

Also, a backpack doesn’t necessarily have to have a dedicated luggage strap for you to attach it to a suitcase. Take the Osprey Porter as an example – instead of a luggage strap, you could use the two compression straps on the front of the backpack. Secure those to the luggage handle and you’re all set!

Keep in mind that it’s important that the smaller bag not be overpacked or too bulky. If it’s too heavy, it’s likely that it won’t sit on the top of the suitcase because the weight is not balanced. And if you have an overpacked carry on, you’ll need a whole lot more than a simple luggage strap to keep it from sliding all over the top of your suitcase when you make a sharp turn.

If you usually have an issue with overpacking smaller bags, I would recommend you look into underseat bags. They are spacious and usually have a rigid design that doesn’t really let you cram too many items inside. Plus, their shape makes them perfect for sitting on top of a suitcase, since the weight gets distributed evenly.

Also, some smaller carry on suitcases have a luggage strap in the back and they can be a really convenient option if you need more than just a simple bag. In most of such bags, the strap is mounted vertically, meaning you have to turn the suitcase horizontally to attach it to a larger suitcases. This is so that the weight gets distributed more evenly, which in turn ensures that the smaller carry on won’t fall off the bigger bag .

Hooking (Spinner) Suitcases Together

Attaching two, three, four and even five or more suitcases together is possible, but only if they are spinners. It’s not a breeze to manoeuvre all that weight, but at least you can juggle around five suitcases with just one hand.

The easiest solution is to just buy a suitcase that has built-in hooks for additional luggage. These are usually called ‘add-a-bag’ straps, so that’s exactly what you need to look for if you want this feature in luggage. You can also look for ‘trolley sleeves’ – it’s the same thing and some European brands are more inclined to use that phrase. Some Travelpro suitcases come equipped with these features, and I’ve also seen them in some Tach hardshell suitcases.

IT Luggage used to have a similar system for their bags, but I think they ditched it with the newer models. If you can get your hands on some of their bags that feature the ‘carry tow’ system, your life could get a lot easier.

Get A Dedicated Strap To Carry Two or Three Suitcases Together

If you want to how to carry 3 suitcases at once, or even just two, you need to buy a dedicated luggage strap. They usually sell for $10-20 and you can use them to attach several suitcases together.

You can even do this with a classic belt or a rope, if you have one that’s long enough go around all the luggage.

The basic nylon straps work in the same way –  pull them through the handles of luggage and secure them all to the largest suitcase.

This only links the luggage together. If you want to make the bags really compact for easier travel, it’s not a bad idea to tie some more straps around their bodies. This way they’ll all behave as one massive bag, and it’s much easier to maneuver them.

Now let’s take a look at the luggage strap options.

Types Of Luggage Straps

Depending on the exact type and amount of luggage you usually travel with, there are a few different types of luggage straps that you might find convenient. It’s great that we have so many different options now, since everyone can really find something that suits their travel habits!

There are the basic nylon straps that are means for hooking suitcases together, and those are available in a myriad of different colors and lengths. Some of those even come with a TSA friendly lock, but that’s a waste of money honestly. You can cut through most of these straps, and unless they are made from steel mesh, a TSA lock will do absolutely nothing for you.

You can also get luggage belts that are designed to hold smaller bags on top of large suitcases, which can be pretty convenient if your favourite carry on doesn’t have a dedicated luggage strap. There’s a few different versions of these, from a proper belt that secures the bag properly to the suitcase, to a small nylon strap that you just pull through the handles of your favorite purse.

Attaching Backpacks Together

Large backpacks are a good alternatives to checked suitcases, especially if you need something with huge capacity. A lot of the bigger backpacks will include a smaller daypack with them that you can either wear on its own or attach to the belly of the bigger backpack.

I know that Osprey does this often – their Daylite backpack has hooks that let you attach it to some of their larger bags, and you just have to look for pack that is Daylite compatible. They’re not the only brand that does this – Deuter and Roamm also have a variety of such bags.

The upside of these backpacks is that you have ultimate versatility when it comes to travel. If you need a carry on in-cabin, just detach the smaller backpack and use it for the items you want easily accessible. You can also wear the smaller backpack kangaroo-style, so that you have easy access to all the exterior pockets while you’re still at the airport.

The smaller packs also get you about 20-30 liters of extra capacity, so you get to bring more stuff to your trips.

In addition to that, you can attach backpacks together even if they aren’t specifically designed for that. You just need a bag with MOLLE cut outs on the front panel and a couple of nylon straps to hook the two bags together.

Luggage Strap Vs. Luggage Sleeve

If you’ve already looked at bags that you can secure to the top of a suitcase, you probably noticed that some have a luggage strap and others have a luggage sleeve. So, what’s the difference?

Well, luggage straps are usually thin, whereas luggage sleeves tend to be thicker and usually feature one or two zippers. I prefer luggage sleeves to straps, especially the ones we often see in travel totes . They usually have two zippers, so you can easily turn them into an extra pocket when you’re not using them as sleeves.

Also, they feel more secure because they are wider. Luggage sleeves and straps are both seen in everything from travel totes and laptop bags to carry on suitcases . A simple strap might be less versatile, but it’s more convenient if you’re worried about the weight of your luggage. The extra zippers and fabric add more weight to the bag – we’re not talking about an extra pound here, but when have to stay under a specific weight limit, every single ounce counts.

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While some travelers might see connecting flights as an inconvenience, others see them as a great opportunity – an opportunity to save money, stretch their legs for a bit, and maybe even add another city to their itinerary. In order to help you make a better and more informed decision next time you book your ticket, we break down the advantages and disadvantages of booking connecting flights.

As an added bonus, we also reveal today’s busiest connecting flight hubs, as reported by the latest OAG industry research.  We’ll include some interesting facts and tips for keeping yourself entertained in and around the airport just in case you happen to find yourself in one of these flight hubs during your next layover.

Connecting flights vs. self-connecting flights

Traditionally speaking, a connecting flight is any flight which requires passengers to change from one plane or airline to another at an intermediate stop on way to the final destination. For many of today’s global travelers, this extra stop is not a deal-breaker and may actually be preferred. In fact, 37% of all travelers are willing to wait more than four hours on a layover in order to save $200 USD, and for millennials, that number jumps to 55%, according to air travel intelligence company OAG .

There are two different types of connecting flights. There are those that are included as one route on your ticket and scheduled by the airline or OTA, and then there those which you plan yourself and book separately, known as self-connecting flights.

A self-connecting flight is unrelated to any other ticket or tickets you have purchased. If purchasing a self-connecting flight sounds like something you would do or are considering for your next flight, you are not alone. It just so happens that 92% of travelers are willing to self-connect under the right circumstances, according to the same OAG report.

Planning your own connection

Perhaps the number one reason why people book their own connections is to save money. If you can save hundreds of dollars by flying from another airport and can find a cheap flight to that said airport – why not? A great way to do this is to book with low-cost airlines and local airlines. You might find some truly great deals if you know where to look for them (may we suggest  momondo ?)

But keep in mind, as is often the case with low-cost airlines, you might not have any checked luggage included with your ticket and it will cost you extra to bring a bag, so make sure to double check the conditions for your specific ticket and to read all the restrictions.

If you decide to check a bag on your self-connecting flight, you will have to retrieve it from baggage claim, exit the airport, and then re-enter and go through the security process all over again. This can be time-consuming, which is why many self-connect travelers prefer to fly with hand luggage only.

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You’re a smart traveler, but just in case you don’t do this already, we would like to remind you that whenever you book a self-connecting flight (or any flight in general), always make sure to double check the airport code. Some major cities like New York have several airports in the area and certain multi-stop flights could require an airport change. If this is the case, you will need to book additional transportation (train, taxi, bus) to the other airport.

In general, it’s always a good idea to double or triple check the airport code. It would be quite the story to end up in San Antonio, Chile if you really wanted to be in San Antonio, Texas. But then again, never say no to a new adventure!

Extending your layover

Perhaps you are intrigued by the idea of adding a new stop to your schedule and exploring more than one city during your trip. If so, consider extending your layover overnight, a few days or even a couple of hours – long enough to get out of the airport and enjoy the city while still having enough time to make it back on time for your next flight. By adding another destination to your itinerary, you might be able to see two places for the price of one and you even save some money if you do it correctly.

There are some airlines that are known for their layover advantages, like Icelandair for example. Icelandair has an established policy which allows passengers to choose layovers of up to seven nights in its hub city of Reykjavik  free of charge, enabling travelers to take advantage of a destination that they may not have thought to explore before.

Many times these airline connections turn out to be even cheaper for flyers. A recent search on momondo* for flights from Amsterdam to Boston come out to around $521 USD with one 17-hour stop in Reykjavik with Icelandair, whereas a direct flight with other carriers will cost over $755 USD at a minimum.

Emirates is another airline that encourages its passengers to include a layover in their itinerary.  They offer a pre-prepared stopover package to travelers who wish to take a day to see its hub city of Dubai . Although not entirely free, the package can cost as little as $64 USD and it includes one night at a hotel, a visa, and assistance to and from the airport.

What happens if I miss my connecting flight?

Each airport has its own recommended minimum connecting times set by the industry. For example, the minimum connection time reported by Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport for transfers within the same terminal is 60 minutes. For transfers to Terminal 3, CDG ups the recommended minimum time to 90 minutes. Each airport’s recommended flight times can usually be found on the airport’s official website.

If you have purchased a ticket from an airline or Online Travel Agency (OTA) which includes a connecting flight, in most cases the airline will do its best to book you on one of their flights or on one of their partner airline flights. Don’t forget to double check the terms and conditions for your specific ticket just to be on the safe side.

You will not get reimbursed, however, if you have purchased two separate self-connecting tickets and miss your connecting flight. Having an idea of the minimum connection time will help you to plan your connecting flights better and will take much of the stress out of making your next flight on time.

Megahubs by region

With thousands of connecting flights taking off every day, some of the world’s most connected airports are also some of the busiest – not only in terms of flight traffic but also in terms of queues. Below, we outline which airports are considered the most connected based on the maximum number of their potential routes each hour. Referred to as megahubs, these airports are ranked according to the  OAG Megahub Index 2016 **.

Frequent flyers to London’s Heathrow Airport (LHR) know that even the recommended one-hour minimum time between connecting flights (even in the same terminal) is risky. Heathrow is so massive in fact that it is Europe’s largest megahub. With plans for a third runway already in the works, it is only expected to get bigger and more crowded. If you have a couple hours to kill, you can reach the city center in just under 45 minutes via the tube or hop on the Heathrow Express, which will take you to Paddington Station in only 15 minutes. Another option is to grab a cab and take a 20-minute ride to Windsor Castle, the longest occupied palace in Europe and the preferred weekend home of Queen Elizabeth II.

Flights to London

North America

The Chicago O’Hare International Airport (ORD) is not only the biggest player in the Midwest United States, but it is also the largest hub in the US. Its expansive grounds are so large that travelers walking from one terminal to the next can get a small workout in. A passenger could walk well over a mile if they go from Concourse C in Terminal 1 all the way to the end of the L Concourse in Terminal 3. Yogis will also be happy to know that there is a yoga room located in Terminal 3 – the perfect place to stretch out before a long flight!

Flights to Chicago

Latin America

Brazil’s São Paulo-Congonhas Airport (CGH) is one of the four airports serving the São Paolo area. Since 1985, international flights have not operated from CGH, so it’s very likely that you will find yourself at this airport only if you are planning to fly internally within Brazil. And why wouldn’t you? From CGH you can reach the gorgeous beaches of Rio de Janeiro in about 50 minutes by plane, or you can venture out a bit further to the sunny peninsulas of Recife or the amazon capital of Manaus.

Flights to São Paulo

Middle East and Africa

The world’s busiest airport for international passenger traffic just so happens to be the primary airport serving Dubai – Dubai International Airport (DXB). DXB sees around 90 million travellers passing through its terminals annually. If that doesn’t seem like a lot of foot traffic, consider this – DXB saw 88,545 connections on its busiest day in 2015 according to the same OAG report. DXB’s massive grounds are so well-known that National Geographic even produced a 10-series documentary called Ultimate Airport Dubai, which gives viewers a behind the scenes look at the day to day operations of the airport.

Flights to Dubai

Asia Pacific

Indonesia’a Java island is home to the Soekarno-Hatta International Airport (CGK), serving the greater Jakarta area. OAG ranks it as the 7th most connected airport in the world and it’s known as being the busiest airport in the Southern Hemisphere. CGK boasts free Wifi, 21 reading corners located throughout its terminals and even a golf course located on the left side of the airport’s main gate.

Flights to Jakarta

If you’re lucky enough to land a layover in one of the  10 best airports in the world  and you feel like doing a little shopping, don’t forget to check out our guide to making the most out of  duty free shops . Happy travels!

*for a 10-day travel period in september 2017, searched in april 2017, **oag created the index by calculating the total number of all possible connections between inbound and outbound flights within an eight-hour window during a single day at the largest airports (based on scheduled seats in 2014), about the author.

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Connect Two GL.net router abroad to home

I have two GL.net router (Beryl and flint) and I use google fiber at home

I will be on road/plane(domestic/abroad) and will be carrying Beryl router with me and Flint will be at home where it will be connected to home internet as more of repeater

This is what I want to do when I connect my personal mobile device/laptop I would like all of my traffic to go to Beryl ->Flint → My home ISP so that it looks like all the traffic is going from my home.

How to set this up ?

Start by logging into both routers and setup the language and password. After that, take a look at: WireGuard Server - GL.iNet Docs

I’m doing this with some of their older model routers and it is working fine for me.

I cant have public ip , can I do it via GOODCLOUD ??

Are you behind a Carrier-grade NAT or do you not have a static IP.

I don’t have static ip

The router supports DDNS. If you enable DDNS, it will give you a name in the format: xxxxxxx.glddns.com that will track any changes to your home router IP address.

I am sorry but can you explain last comment in plain english due to lack to technical knowledge in networking.

On my travel router i should connect to xxx.glddns.net ??

Without going into the technical details, if you enable DDNS on your router, it will provide a fixed name that you can use to connect to your home router. Just try turning on DDNS, and it will give you the exact name to use.

Once i enable that after that should i follow wireguard link you gave earlier or is this the solution for not having static/public ip ??

On your home based router, you will need to enable both DDNS and the Wireguard server. On your travel router, you will use the DDNS name as the IP address on your Wireguard client.

It is difficult to explain this without going technical, because it is.

You’ll need a VPN (Virtual Private Network). There are different solutions, like OpenVPN and WireGuard, and WireGuard is much simpler. There is a server and a client. The Server needs to be reachable via Internet, all the time. For this Reason, you need two things

• A static IP, or a static Hostname, that is resolving to your IP (called DynDNS, DDNS,…)
• If the Flint is not the Main router, a Portforwarding from The Internet to the Flint.
• Two different Networks

At first you take a look around your network and check if any device is already have had a dynamic hostname. It is mainly used for remote access via App, from NAS devices, security cameras, smart fridge/washing machine/iron and so on. If there is no device, check the GoogdCloud way ([letters and numbers].glddns.com), as mentioned earlier.

Than check if your Flint is the main router, connected to the Internet, or if you need to forward the port. The last one depends on your router.

Now you can start to follow the given manual. First setup the ‘Wireguard Server’ on the Flint, than add a profile for the Beryl.

But before you can go live, you may need to change the IP address of the Beryl. If both ‘local networks’ are 192.168.8.1, the Tunnel (VPN) won’t work. You can change it to everything you want, maybe 192.168.9.1 …

As the server (Flint) will run permanent, and the client (Beryl) will search for the DDNS hostname, the connection will be possible from nearly everywhere, with internet. For example: It won’t work, if the hotel WLAN only allow web (http) and Email traffic. But such issues are too depending on the specific situation, as it can be discussed here in general.

And I think you should not be able to build the VPN with the Beryl inside your net. If you’d like to test it, either try to tether the internet with your phone (mobile data plan, not WLAN!) or from your neighbors house.

Goodcloud should allow you to setup a node system that does the same thing.

Call me thick but I can’t see ENABLE DDNS in my FLINT router? I’m looking in the Control Panel - not Luci…

Help - am I missing something - I would like to try the glddns.com as I don;t have a fixed IP (I’m using 4G with a TP-Link 4G router feeding FLINT).

Whats the firmware? Should be under applications(4.2.0 firmware)

Actually in 3.16 is Remote Access.

Meanwhile I just upgraded - but only came across 4.1 - am I missing something here? I was on 3.2 - now 4.1 - and it occurred to me - am I flogging a dead horse here? I have 4g coming into a TP-link router and the LAN out from that goes into the FLINT WAN… am I going to have the issue of not having a public address or should I keep progressing this?? What I DID find out was that with multi-WAN I seem able to add the main 4G to the 4G hotspot on my phone and get a decent bump in speed… lots of things happening all in one night - WiFi 6 GL-iNET AX1800 (FLINT) Router - Scargill's Tech Blog - but I digress…

If you can clarify whether or not I’m wasting my time with DDNS or not on a 4G signal… and can I get that on 4.1 or do I need to somehow find 4.2?

Yes I did see it in remote access on 3.2 but the router griped I was behind something OR didn’t have a public address and I recall being told about public addresses and 4G some time ago… any clarification REALLY welcome…

4.2 is in Beta and snapshot on the GL.iNET firmware download page, NOT STABLE releases yet. From how I use it I have not had any issue with the 1-14-2023 snapshot or the 1-16-2023 snapshot.

DDNS is essentially giving the router a address it can always be found at. So 4G should work, who is the service provider? Also it depends on the cellular IP as well most don’t get assigned a routable address. If starts with 10. . .* or 100. . .* these are private and carrier grade NAT services. The newer 5g none mobile hotspots can be used. MWAN might be the issue with multiple 4G connections. ZeroTier or Tailscale might be a better option.

In general, you can’t have a simple wireguard/openvpn server gl-inet setup if you don’t have a public IP or are behind CGNAT.

You CAN use something like taiscale (based on WG) that does the CGNAT port opening but at this moment is more involved to setup, and support for it in gl-inet products it’s just starting to show up.

Advice taken - stick with 4.1 for now…DDNS - understand the basic logic. I’ve always had a fixed IP in the past - now on 4G I don’t… Service provider is Spanish - XENET (who latch onto Orange I believe). No 5G here, only 4G and the router is 4G… ERm, yes, starts with 10 - so that’s out then… getting Tailscale running - that’ll be the next challenge - I already have a Tailscale network - no idea how to add FLINT to it… Fire away if you know how to install TailScale on FLINT router…

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PM Modi to inaugurate Ahmedabad Metro Phase 2: Timings, route details inside

Pm modi will inaugurate the second phase of the ahmedabad metro on september 16. this 21-kilometer extension will connect ahmedabad and gandhinagar, with key stations including gnlu, pdeu, and gift city. the new metro line promises to reduce travel time to 65 minutes and offer affordable fares..

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The new metro line aims to redefine urban mobility with faster, safer, and more affordable travel options. It will ease traffic congestion and reduce travel time between Ahmedabad and Gandhinagar. For example, the journey from APMC to Gandhinagar’s Sector-1 will take just 65 minutes at a cost of Rs35, compared to over 80 minutes and higher fares by taxi or autorickshaw.

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The metro’s clean energy design will contribute to a reduction in carbon emissions and traffic pollution. By linking major commercial hubs like GIFT City and Infocity, the extension is expected to stimulate regional economic growth, enhance real estate development, and offer improved commuting options for professionals, students, and residents.

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This phase marks a significant step in Gujarat's strategy to build a comprehensive urban transport network. Future expansions are planned to further integrate and enhance the metro system, positioning Gujarat as a leading global urban center with advanced and sustainable transport infrastructure.

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