2016 dodge journey 3.6 water pump replacement

Dodge Journey:  Signs of a Bad Water Pump

Your Dodge Journey’s water pump is one of the most crucial parts of the engine.  If it doesn’t pump water through the engine, it’s going to overheat and do a lot of damage.  Typical signs of a bad water pump include overheating, white smoke, a bad smell, rough idle, and more.

A water pump works by pumping water through the engine.  If nothing turns it, it can’t pump any water.  Taking a look at the health of the drive belt is always a great place to start if you are trying to figure out if your Journey’s water pump is bad.

It is possible for the water pump to last for the entire life of the vehicle.  But it is a simple machine with moving parts, which means that failure will inevitably strike.  The only question is how long will it take to happen.

Bad Water Pump Signs: Dodge Journey

Here are the most common symptoms of a bad water pump in your Journey:

A noisy water pump can indicate that it has a bearing that is going out.  The problem with most engine noises is that they are difficult to hunt down.  

If your water pump is easy to reach, you can gently place a really long screwdriver tip against it.  Then, place the handle end of the screwdriver against your ear.  You should be able to hear the noise clearly coming from the water pump.

Be careful, there are a lot of moving parts around the water pump.

2. Leaking Water Pump

Water leaking from around your Journey’s water pump is a sure indication that the water pump could be bad.  It could be the water pump or the water pump gasket causing the leak.  

You have to pull the water pump to replace the gasket.  Due to the relative low price of a water pump in relation to how much work it takes to get off, we recommend replacing the water pump even if the gasket is bad.

3. Low Coolant Level

If the coolant is leaking out of the water pump from somewhere, you’re going to get low coolant.  The problem is that low coolant can indicate a lot of different problems.  It can indicate a bad radiator, radiator hose, or thermostat housing as well.

4. Overheating and/or Steam

If your Journey has leaked enough radiator fluid, there won’t be enough left to properly cool your engine, and it’ll overheat.

Steam will rise out of the hood if engine coolant is leaking onto the exhaust.

Bad Water Pump Behavior

It can be tough trying to figure out if your Journey’s water pump is bad.  The signs of a bad water pump are the same as a lot of other radiator components.

A water pump that is struggling to function will cause your Journey to run hot .  If you have a temperature gauge and you see that your Journey is running hotter than it should be, try parking and revving the engine a bit (in neutral or park).  If the gauge goes down, that would be a very strong indicator that the water pump is bad.

Bad Water Pump Causes:  Dodge Journey

Here are some of the most common problems that can lead to a bad water pump:

Dry Rotation

Your Journey’s water pump is designed to rotate with coolant inside of it.  This helps create a watertight seal that can withstand the pressure in the cooling system.

Without water the fluid cushion between the two rings (shaft and stationary) is lost.  These rings will quickly fail and you’ll be stuck with a slow leak from the water pump.

This can happen when you’ve allowed your Journey to run without coolant, or if you’ve recently replaced the water pump and dry started it without any coolant.

Bad/Improper Seal

Over time, the seal can go bad around the water pump.  It’ll start leaking water and go bad.  A big mistake that people make when they put a new water pump on is to use a bunch of gasket sealer.  Most manufacturers will only recommend a small amount in a few key places or none at all.

Wrong Coolant

It is imperative that you follow the Dodge’s directions when it comes to the type of coolant that you use.  The wrong coolant can eat away at the gasket.

Contaminants in the cooling system can wear down the gasket and seals as well.  Using the wrong coolant can cause internal rust and corrosion.  This corrosion will effectively water blast the water pump.

Bad Bearings

Your water has bearings in the rotating assembly.  They can fail like any other bearing.  If the bearings are bad it usually won’t do so quietly.  A horrible squeaking noise that goes up and down with your Journey’s engine RPM should be observed.

Serpentine Belt

The serpentine belt can cause the water pump to go bad if it’s been improperly installed, or if there’s too much tension on it.  Here are some common signs that a serpentine belt is bad.  

Conclusion:  Journey Bad Water Pump Symptoms

A bad water pump has the potential to cause a lot of engine damage.  Getting ahead of it before your Journey overheats will save you a lot of money.  

Thank you for reading.  We really hope that this helps.  Please feel free to leave a comment below with any questions or concerns that you may have.

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Replacing water pump 2014 Journey 3.6L

By Xyberz November 5, 2018 in Engine & Transmission

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Has anyone attempted to do this and successfully completed this task?  It's such a huge headache to get to the pump and even when u have all the bolts off/loose, it's still being blocked so it can't come out unless u remove/move one of 3 things it seems.  Either the harmonic balancer (the most likely choice), looks like what is the top engine mount , or the A / C compressor .   I assume it would be a bad idea to completely unbolt the top engine mount  as the engine might lean over making it nearly impossible to put said bolts back in afterwards?

There are NO videos on YouTube and Google search hasn't resulted in anything for the 3.6L for the Dodge Journey or any inverted Pentastar 3.6L. Would've been nice if these damn designers could've left it straight like they do in the V6 Durango so it would be a million times easier to work on.

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Have you checked this page out? It seems to have worked for others. Great site BTW.

Thank you for the link.  I've literally done almost everything except yank out the water pump  out after all the bolts  were loosened.  I was just asking really if anyone knew the best way to physically remove it from it's mounted position once you do unbolt it.  I think the best option is gonna be by removing the harmonic balancer  which you can rent the tool from an auto parts store for free with a deposit.  I don't think the other 2 methods I suggested would be logical. So I technically have almost done about 50% of the repair.  But since I didn't have the right tool I had to put it back together.  

When I get the tool I think I'll make a video since there is none available anywhere and not even posted in any forum.

As long as you are in there change the timing belt [if you have the 6]. It’s due at 100k miles and your right there anyway.

Already in top of that.  Have a new one already presoaked in 303 Protectant and new thermostat with housing since I cracked the old one getting the hose off.

didnt know the 3.6 had a timing belt thought it was a chain and certainly not at 100 k

It definitely has a serpentine bel t for the pulleys but might using a timing chain behind it.

of course it has a serpentine belt they all do but you all  were talking timing belts  you also need to change out the  belt tensioner  as well as a lot of time the lose the correct tension after the belt being removed and then reinstalled, it  happened to my dads van good luck on the repair and make a video for you tube and be a star.

Our vehicle has a little over 60K miles and I'm not hearing any kind of funny noises and the original belt is still technically good but I'm replacing the belt regardless.  Why should i replace the tensioner if it has no signs of malfunctioning?  The tension on the belt is still stiff like it's supposed to be, at least IMO.  There also is no rust on it either.  I'm sure it's a good idea to replace it should you have any doing of it not functioning as it should and/or it's visibly damaged but in our case none of that applies.

Just a valid question. You truly think it should be replaced at this time with 66k miles?

Why not your already in there,whats to lose?

I agree with to late

Obviously nothing, just not always into replacing things that look and seem to be working perfectly fine possibly much sooner than required.  I mean honestly the belt looks like it could easily last at least another 10k miles as it has no cracks anywhere and there's a decent amount of groove left, but I'm replacing it anyways.  The cost is just adding up quickly once you start with "while you're in there replace this and that" mentality you know?  If that's truly the case then I should just replace the damper pulley too since I'm taking it out anyways?  

Correct me if I'm wrong?  

the advise i gave about replacing the belt tensioner was given to my father yrs ago by a dodge  dealership he had had a new alt put on so he also had them do the belt they didnt advise to replace the tensioner and while he was on a trip about a week later, out of town the belt came off and he had it towed into the local dodge  dealership and they asked him didnt they tell you  to replace the tensioner when doing the other work and said no why? the manger explained that when you take the belt off the tensioner a lot of times they go bad and or dont go back to full pressure that they are supposed to be . anyways they fixed my dads van gave him a new  belt and all he had to pay was for the new tensioner they, didnt even charged him labor just the price of the belt as they said it should have been suggested  to him the first time........do want you want and hopefully you wont have any problems..... good luck.

1 hour ago, Xyberz said: Just a valid question. You truly think it should be replaced at this time with 66k miles?

do you travel thur a lot of snow and salt during the winter. depends on how it looks and what you think 66 k is not that much but it is going on 5 yrs old

No, this car came all the way from Hawaii with us and now we are in Vegas. We don't drive anywhere with snow and Cali is the only place we typically drive to now besides here at home.  And I do appreciate the advice, environmental factors definitely made a big difference one intervals of when things need to be replaced.  For example here there's a ton of dust flying around all the time even if it's not always visible so that definitely affects parts like it wouldn't like back in Hawaii.  Then again Hawaii had tons of humidity 95% of the time that will affects things differently.  I see where you're coming from though.

You might be correct on the timing chain.  I was thinking the 3.5 like I have. It’s a belt and calls for replacement at 100k miles. I changed my serpentine belt at about 75k miles, but did not change the tensioner with no bad results.

 Here's a pic of the belt tensioner . I don't believe before me, it's ever been used since this car came out of the factory.

Never heard of changing a perfectly good operating tensioner pulley just because your are changing the cerpintine belt  .  You change that when or if  it ever starts making noise from bearing failure, easy change generally any way.  I hear what they are saying ( water pump  when timing is done - yes ).  As you mentioned, where do you stop then ? Good luck with timing  belt  , water pump  and belt  change.

3.6 engine  has a timing chain

9 hours ago, larryl said: 3.6 engine  has a timing chain

Correct. 3.5 had a belt. 3.6 is a chain. 

I'll make a video next weekend and upload it to YouTube so everyone can see the whole process.

mighty be a great forum section to have videos of JUST journey repair videos, would be a great help to a lot of owners, dont believe other blogs have a section of  just for videos on repairs...what do you think Jkeaton?

2 hours ago, 2late4u said: mighty be a great forum section to have videos of JUST journey repair videos, would be a great help to a lot of owners, dont believe other blogs have a section of  just for videos on repairs...what do you think Jkeaton?

We have a DIY section. Something different?

https://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/forum/60-maintenance-dyi/

yea i know but was thinking something just for repair videos or links to you tube repair, might be to hard to keep up with all the spammers or misuse i guess. thanks anyway... 

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Should I replace the T-belt and Water pump myself? Thanks for posting this tutorial. I'm still new to repairing and modding my own car. Started learning when I got my Charger R/T. Although I've done a few mods & repairs, I just had a few questions: -What is the difficulty of doing this myself for the 5.7L (R/T) engine. Should I even bother or is it better to just have it professionally done. (I've changed rotors, brake pads, replaced brake fluid. I've taken the front fascia off and replaced my grille. I've also installed a CAI. Is changing the timing belt and water pump relatively harder or easier than any of those things?) - Also I'm not sure if mine actually needs replacing. What is the recommended time to have those 2 things replaced. What can I look for to see if they need to be replaced? Thanks for all your help.  

shinrido said: Thanks for posting this tutorial. I'm still new to repairing and modding my own car. Started learning when I got my Charger R/T. Although I've done a few mods & repairs, I just had a few questions: -What is the difficulty of doing this myself for the 5.7L (R/T) engine. Should I even bother or is it better to just have it professionally done. (I've changed rotors, brake pads, replaced brake fluid. I've taken the front fascia off and replaced my grille. I've also installed a CAI. Is changing the timing belt and water pump relatively harder or easier than any of those things?) - Also I'm not sure if mine actually needs replacing. What is the recommended time to have those 2 things replaced. What can I look for to see if they need to be replaced? Thanks for all your help. Click to expand...

your water pump is most likely okay. if you can do brakes you can do this. it is pretty straight forward on the 5.7 Here is a link to our service manual http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=24486  

@PlumCrazyDaytona & AntDog24 Thanks for your quick and helpful replies! I don't have any leaks. I just like to do preventive maintenance. But sounds like I'm ok as far as those 2 things go. Thanks again. You guys and chargerforums are the best!  

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I think my water pump has bit the dust. It all started when my car began overheating. I assumed the 180deg Jet thermostat was had failed. So, I went to O'Reilly's and picked up an OEM replacement and set my fan temp settings back to stock via the Predator. Then weird stuff started to happen. At idle my engine temp would go up to red line! If I throttled the engine the thermostat would open and the temp would drop to normal. The guy at O'Reilly's told me that their thermostats were junk and I should pick up an OEM from Dodge. I intended to do so but never got around to it. Well, the overheating continued and became less responsive to the throttling. Just today I removed the thermostat figuring that the coolant would free flow and the overheating issue would be done while still intending to get a replacement thermostat eventually. Well, I had to take my car someplace after removing the thermostat and the thing overheated completely. I had to turn around and return home. I know of nothing but the water pump which would cause this. If you guys know of something else please let me know. I am planning on replacing the water pump and thermostat on Friday. Thanks in advance.  

Problem solved.  

which was what? i think my leak now is being by water pump pulley or something. thanks for the manual? and insight to what i may run into  

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