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Star Trek: Every Hero Ship Ranked Worst To Best

There have been ten hero ships throughout Star Trek, but let's see which left the biggest impact.

Star Trek has given us some of the most creative starship designs of any science-fiction franchise. The art teams don't just settle on a design because it looks cool; every single element needs to serve a clear purpose and fit into the established lore.

Every film and series in the franchise has a hero ship, meaning the vessels that are most important to the plot and usually house the crew on their adventures. In this list, we're going to take a closer look at every hero ship in Trek and rank them from worst to best.

We won't be focusing on power or technical capabilities (because if we did, most of them would just be ranked in the order they appeared in the timeline), but they'll instead be ranked in terms of uniqueness, coolness, and how well their designs play into the story. We're also gonna exclude ships that only appeared briefly, such as the Enterprise-B and Enterprise-C, as well as the Enterprise-A, which was nearly identical to the refit of the original NCC-1701.

10. The Cerritos

It may seem unfair to compare the USS Cerritos from Star Trek: Lower Decks to other Starfleet ships, since most of the humour of the show comes from the fact that the ship is so lame.

The Cerritos was a California-class vessel, one of the smallest starships in the fleet. The series creator, Mike McMahan, explained to Marcus Bronzy during an interview on How To Kill An Hour that the yellow markings on the ship's hull indicate that it's primary mission is to provide engineering support, specifically for second contacts.

As we saw in the Lower Decks pilot, second contacts are very sensitive missions, though the drama is significantly more scaled back compared to first contact, which is usually done by a more advanced ship with a more experienced crew.

All in all, the Cerritos is one of the weakest and most generic starships in the fleet and, though the ship saw a fair amount of action throughout the show, it was nothing compared to what Boimler witnessed after being transferred to the Titan, a far more sophisticated vessel.

Marcia Fry is a writer for WhatCulture and an amateur filmmaker.

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The Star Trek universe is filled with a vast array of fantastic science fiction technology, from space bending warp cores to matter-creating replicators . But of course, one of the most important bits of kit are the spaceships that allow the Federation and the titular heroes of the shows to boldly go where no one had gone before. Without them, the Star Trek franchise itself couldn't exist.

There are some fantastic alien spaceships originating from all across the galaxy, the spooky Klingon birds of prey being a prime example. But of course, none are more iconic than the Enterprise ships. Of all the iterations over the years, however, there are some that are better than others, so here is a list of the top variations (ignoring alternate timeline or reality versions).

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USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-J)

Starting off with what many fans consider to be the worst, this ugly ship looks more like an insect than it does a Starfleet spaceship. It was designed to look even more futuristic than the normal Enterprises, and features in Enterprise as part of their temporal accord, Cold War storyline. As its letter ‘J’ suggests, this is a far-future version from the 26th century. The intention was to make it look spindly and futuristic, but in reality it just feels squashed and stretched. Fans have said that it looks more like “a space pancake with nacelles” than a proper Star Trek spaceship.

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-B)

This ship was an attempt to fill in the design gaps between The Original Series and The Next Generation , trying to meet somewhere in the middle between classic 1960s sci-fi vision and the sleeker, more modern aesthetic of Picard's Enterprise. It’s seen the movie Generations and, likely because it didn't get much screen time, the design is all over the place. It features tiny nacelle struts that make it look fairly stumpy, and has a chunky deflector dish. What annoyed fans more about this design, however, was not that it looked weird or out of place, but that it was a rip-off of another ship from the franchise: the USS Excelsior from the film The Search For Spock . They felt that the ship bearing the famous name should stand out more, or show some more individuality. But no, it ended up just being a lazy re-skin .

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D)

The Enterprise D would most likely be at the top of a lot of lists, just for how beloved the TNG show was ( excluding season one ). But arguably, the design of the ship was a bit odd. It has become iconic, there is no denying that, but most look at it with the rose-tinted glasses of loving the characters and storylines of the show. The ship is ridiculously huge, bulky, and seriously top-heavy. While being in space there is no need to balance everything out, it would have been nice to have seen some more elegant design choices. It is an awkward design that did a lot of cool things, like saucer separation, but never looked right.

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-C)

This ship was potentially one of the most important ones of the franchise, or at least was part of a peace treaty that changed the Federation forever. This one is featured in the TNG episode “Yesterday’s Enterprise.” It is iconic for being a ship that sacrificed itself to save a Klingon outpost at a time when the Federation and Klingon empire were still at war . The design canceled out a lot of the odd, clunky vibes of the Enterprise B, and felt like a much more natural evolution between the old 60s ship and the modern TNG iteration. The only downside was that it was only shown off for one episode, then never seen again.

Enterprise (NX-01)

While there was a lot for fans to dislike about the Enterprise series ( especially the series finale ), the design of the ship is generally well received. It makes sense that, with the show being named after it, special attention would have been made to make it look not only appropriate for its time, but also aesthetically pleasing. This iteration provided a much grungier version of the iconic vessel. While very different from the newer version of the ship, as this one doesn't have a lower saucer section, it still manages to be recognizably Star Trek. It’s easy to see that this is a prototype of the later versions of the vesse;. It was supposed to be experimental, in a time when all this space traveling, Federation-building malarkey was brand new.

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-A)

The A version from the prime timeline ( not the Beyond version from the Abrams films ) was TOS ’s first refit from the iconic version found within the show, and made its first dramatic appearance in The Search For Spock . It’s a great-looking ship, but it became the subject of many jokes due to how often it malfunctioned or broke down. It was rushed (technically stolen) from a Starfleet space dock before it was properly finished. This said, it not only honored everything about the original design, but added to it, making subtle changes to make it really shine.

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-E)

This iteration of the Enterprise first appeared in the Next Generation movies, and the design tried to spice things up. Everything is slimmed out from the original aesthetic. The design removes the connecting structure between the deflector dish and the much slimmer saucer, and extends out the length of the nacelles. It’s still the vague Enterprise shape, but gains a more premium, elegant sports car vibe, much more suited to the flashy aesthetic the films were trying to achieve. It remains familiar, just updated, doing exactly what was intended.

USS Enterprise (NCC-1701)

Where else but at the top of the list should the famous Original Series ship go? It's a beautifully designed vessel that started the entire franchise off. Its sharp angles and pleasing shapes completely blow the future designs out of the park, and while often referred to as simplistic or underwhelming, its legacy speaks for itself. The design is so good because it was designed with real world aeronautical science in mind , refining the appearance to make it not only look good, but also real realistic, and a logical step forward from the flying machines of the late 60s. Everything after this became somewhat messy, unnecessarily bogged down with sci-fi extras that looked cool, but often detracted from the design.

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The Fleet's In: 24th Century Federation Starships

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For those of us who lovingly refer to ourselves as “starship nerds,” Star Trek 's 24th century is populated with an astounding array of Starfleet vessels for us to gaze upon with awe. The series and films set in this era, namely Star Trek: The Next Generation , Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , Star Trek: Voyager , Star Trek: Picard , and the four movies helmed by the TNG crew, produced vast fleets that demonstrated the Federation's prestigious shipbuilding capabilities.

Narrowing down choices, and ranking my favorites proved difficult enough, so we have excluded 23rd century holdovers (so no Excelsior -, Miranda -, Constellation -, and Oberth -class staples), non-Starfleet vessels such as Ambassador Spock's craft from Star Trek (2009) , the relatively diminutive Danube -class runabouts, and auxiliary shuttles. With that in mind, let's take a look at the ships that have been deployed from Utopia Planitia, Riverside, Beta Antares, Eridani A, and other Federation fleet yards.

10. Nova -class in Voyager

When the Nova -class U.S.S. Equinox first popped up on U.S.S. Voyager 's sensors in “Equinox,” Captain Janeway noted that the starship was a planetary research vessel designed for scientific missions rather than long-range tactical excursions. The Nova -class bore streamlined similarities to its larger Intrepid and Sovereign -class cousins, but its limited scope and small crew left it vulnerable to a lonely jaunt through the Delta Quadrant. If Captain Ransom had commanded a sturdier vessel, perhaps he would not have resorted to the deplorable tactics he employed to find a faster route home. However, the design apparently stood an excellent chance of enduring, as Captain Harry Kim sat in the center seat aboard the Nova -class variant U.S.S. Rhode Island in the alternate future seen in “Endgame.”

9. Ambassador -class in The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine

The U.S.S. Enterprise-C remains the most well known Ambassador -class vessel due to its namesake, its prominence in the classic “Yesterday's Enterprise,” and its valiant rescue of the Klingon outpost on Narendra III from Romulan aggressors. Variants of this starship also notably appeared in Captain Picard's blockade during the Klingon Civil War, at the Battle of Wolf 359, and as a transport in “Data's Day.” The explorer's design proved to be an elegant mid-point between its Excelsior -class predecessors and Galaxy -class successors, and it would have been wonderful to see the vessel show up on a more frequent basis.

8. Prometheus -class in Voyager

Who can forget the stunning sight of the prototype U.S.S. Prometheus becoming three independent vessels as it separated into multi-vector assault mode during “Message in a Bottle?” The Prometheus 's computer and resident EMH informed Voyager 's doctor that the advanced ship was intended for deep space tactical assignments and could achieve speeds faster than any other member of the fleet. The pair of holographic physicians managed to wrest control of the Prometheus from Romulan hands and deploy its experimental defensive systems against Tal Shiar warbirds. While it is unknown if further Prometheus -class ships were constructed, the prototype was spotted again as part of the armada sent to intercept the Borg sphere in “Endgame.”

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7. Akira -class in Star Trek: First Contact , Deep Space Nine , and Voyager

First seen on screen in the Battle of Sector 001, the Akira -class's earliest chronological appearance occurred during a flashback at the Utopia Planitia shipyards in the Voyager episode “Relativity.” While no single starship of this design ever received an excessive amount of attention, numerous Akira -class vessels substantiated their worth in battle during the height of the Dominion War. From retaking Deep Space 9 in “Sacrifice of Angels” to assaulting Cardassia in “What You Leave Behind,” these resilient craft evidently became an instrumental element in Starfleet's defense forces by the end of the 2370s.

6. Inquiry -class in Picard

The imposing task force led by Captain Riker above Coppelius was composed of Inquiry-class vessels, including Riker's own U.S.S. Zheng He . Representing the most up-to-date Federation design of the 24th century, the reinstated captain described these ships as the toughest, fastest, and most powerful ones that Starfleet had ever produced up until that time. Although the entire fleet that confronted the Romulans in the Ghulion system fell into the Inquiry-class designation, there seemed to be two variants with differing nacelle configurations present. A whole armada of vessels more advanced than either the Galaxy - or Sovereign -classes? Now that is a majestic view to behold. I'd love to see a rundown of the entire roster of over 150 ships (by my latest count) that participated in Riker's defense formation.

5. Nebula -class in The Next Generation , Deep Space Nine , Voyager , Star Trek Generations , and Star Trek: First Contact

With primary hulls resembling those of its Galaxy -class counterparts, the Nebula -class explorers were featured heavily across multiple series and movies. Captain Maxwell demonstrated their tactical prowess as the U.S.S. Phoenix overwhelmed Cardassian targets in “The Wounded,” Data assumed temporary command over the U.S.S. Sutherland in “Redemption II,” the U.S.S. Farragut aided the U.S.S. Enterprise-D 's crew on Veridian III, and Professor Seyetik's U.S.S. Prometheus conducted solar experiments in “Second Sight.” The Nebula -class's diverse mission profile and extensive use over the years helped it secure such a high rank on our list.

4. Sovereign-class in Star Trek: First Contact , Star Trek: Insurrection , and Star Trek Nemesis

With its on screen credits confined to the U.S.S. Enterprise-E 's roles in the final three TNG films, the beautifully-fashioned Sovereig n-class is often considered to be an underutilized design by starship aficionados. However, given the class's appearances on background LCARS graphics in DS9, I would love to imagine that many Sovereigns were built and saw service somewhere just off-camera during those epic Dominion War battles. Geordi La Forge considered the Enterprise-E to be Starfleet's most advanced ship in 2373, and the new Federation flagship lived up to its reputation in engagements with the Borg, Son'a, and Praetor Shinzon's Scimitar . While not as voluminous as the Enterprise-D , Picard's latest command maintained a larger-than-life presence as it warped across the quadrant to extinguish diplomatic and strategic brush fires.

3. Defiant -class in Deep Space Nine , Star Trek: First Contact , and Voyager

Riker's legendary quip about a “tough little ship” perfectly encapsulates the Defiant -class's ability to contain such overpowered weapons and defensive shields within such a small spaceframe. Originally developed to combat the Borg (which the U.S.S. Defiant bravely did under Worf's leadership at the Battle of Sector 001), Captain Sisko's beloved flagship ultimately earned its fiercest accolades in clashes against the Jem'Hadar both before and during the Dominion War. The only member of Starfleet to be (unofficially) considered a warship and (legally) equipped with a cloaking device, the Defiant withstood everything that was thrown at it... until a Breen energy-dampening weapon brought about its untimely end. The U.S.S. São Paulo , fittingly renamed in honor of its sister ship Defiant , allowed Sisko to oversee the Dominion's final defeat at Cardassia from a familiar bridge.

2. Intrepid -class in Voyager and Deep Space Nine

Home to Captain Janeway and her crew for their entire venture through the Delta Quadrant, U.S.S. Voyager pioneered Starfleet's use of bio-neural circuitry, the Emergency Medical Hologram, and a warp core that managed a top cruising speed of warp 9.975. Of course, Voyager also reaped the unique benefit of Seven of Nine's Borg database, a valuable library that permitted them to add a finely-tuned astrometrics lab and the Delta Flyer to the ship's already impressive complement. Voyager' s capacity to outlast everyone from the Hirogen to the Devore in a firefight while still completing countless scientific surveys and first contact missions served as a testament to its durability. When Admiral Ross visited Romulus during the height of the Dominion War, even the high-ranking officer opted to travel on the Intrepid -class U.S.S. Bellerophon rather than any other craft.

1. Galaxy -class in The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Picard , and Star Trek Generations

In what is sure to become a controversial decision, the Galaxy -class explorer tops our list of incredible Federation vessels. Despite early concerns over potential design flaws, the Enterprise-D and its sister ships acquitted themselves admirably from TNG's opening moments through Voyager 's return to Earth. Whether hosting dignitaries or being transported to regions beyond the Milky Way's confines, the Enterprise-D acted as a home and refuge for its crew and their families. Although the U.S.S. Odyssey fell in the Federation's first skirmish with the Jem'Hadar, other Galaxy-class starships held the line against the Dominion throughout the war. In the alternate version of 2390 depicted in “Timeless,” the U.S.S. Challenger remained in service under Captain Geordi La Forge. If the Galaxy -class is good enough for Starfleet's most accomplished 24th-century engineer, who am I to disagree?

Star Trek Ships of the Line — U.S.S. Enterprise

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The database lists all canon starships and other spaceborne constructions of the Star Trek Universe by races and classes. Schematic side views and technical specs are included where available. The data is mainly based on the very episodes and on official sources. In some cases, however, obvious errors had to be corrected. Inconsistencies or oddities are discussed in the annotations. Read more about the database structure .

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Many of the images in this section are taken from official sources such as the Star Trek Encyclopedia II , the Star Trek Encyclopedia (2016) the DS9 Technical Manual , the Star Trek Fact Files , Star Trek: The Magazine or the Eaglemoss Official Starships Collection . Note that some of these were cleaned up and obvious errors were corrected. A number of schematics (namely Academy trainer craft, Antares NCC-501, Archer's model, Birdseye, Bonaventure from the Chronology , Centaur, Cheyenne, Constitution original, Excelsior variant 1, "Star Trek (2009)" shuttle, Mars defense perimeter, New Orleans, Ptolemy, Saladin, Springfield, Sydney, Raven, Talarian ships and variants, Tamarian ship and variants, Tosk ship and several TAS ships) are copyright of Ex Astris Scientia.

Special thanks go to Mike Swantak for the Ambassador, to Tim Davies for the Excelsiors, to Gus for the "Star Trek (2009)" Enterprise, to Sean Thornton for the Enterprise-A (alt.), to Pundus for the Odyssey, to MadMan and The-Didact for two versions of the Vengeance, to Chris G. for the "Star Trek (2009)" Spacedock, Klingon "Warbird" (models by MadMan), Whale Probe, "Nemesis" drydock (mesh by S-Stephen), TMP drydock (mesh by Prologic9), McKinley drydock (mesh by Eric Peterson), Warp Five Complex (mesh by Beda of Borg) and several images from Lower Decks, to Dávid Metlesits for the Klingon DIS ships (rendered based on models from Star Trek Adversaries), to Dave Combe for the DIS BoP and Sarcophagus ship, to C.HellenBrandt for the D'Arsay archive, Farpoint lifeform, interface probe, Melkotian buoy, ultraviolet satellite, standard D5, the "Star Trek (2009)" escape pod, forklift and more, to Ryan Church for Kirk's motorbike concept art, the Breen ship and the Klingon Augment ship, to Tobias Richter who created the USS Kelvin mesh, to James Chung for Picard concept art, to Daniel Petri for the reconstructed Aurora and the Class J from TOS-R, to Kristian Trigwell for Nomad, DY-100, DY-500, Valiant, Utopia Planitia, TAS personal spacecraft and some emblems, to Chris Spinnler for the Challenger, to Masaki Taniko who modified the Constitution refit, Miranda, Nebula variants, Curry and "Raging Queen", to Robert Bonchune for posting the official Intrepid-type, Delta ship and Kumari renders and who created many renders for recent official publications, to Doug Drexler for posting renders by several CGI artists such as Robert Bonchune, including the "Emmette", NX-Alpha, Arctic One, Arctic One Borgified, three-fingered drydock, multispatial probe, all Vulcan CGI ships, Cardassian workbee, 22nd century Ferengi ship, Nausicaan raider, all Suliban ships, Arkonian warship, Kreetassan ship, Kago Darr's shuttle, Malurian ship, Takret ship, Tandaran patrol ship, Valakian ship, Xantoran patrol ship, "Crossing" alien ship, Reptohumanoid ship and variants, Ledosian ships, Markonian outpost, Venatic, "Alice", "Silent Enemy" ship & shuttle and "Dead Stop" station, to John Eaves for the "Communicator" fighter, the Triannon vessel, the "Extinction" vessel, Xindi-Insectoid vessel 2 and the Axanar combat ship, to Irishman for drawings of Earth Starfleet ships, to Sven Lindemann for intermediate images, to Harry for parts of the early spaceship I, to Thorsten Junk for the Reman shuttle, to Raul Quiles who provided the Shuttlepod 1 and inspection pod schematics, to Kris Olinger who modified the Challenger, to Graham Kennedy for cleaning up and coloring the Starfleet probes, to Masao Okazaki for drawing the Daedalus, Bonaventure, Huron and TAS cargo drone, to Simon Golding for intermediate images, to E. Jakobsson for the Yeager and Elkins, to Jeff Russell for V'ger, to David Matteson for the NX-02 emblem, to viperaviator for the Franklin emblem, to Tobias Weimann for a couple of emblems, to Animaniac for the 22nd century Tholian ship and finally to Alice Orbán for subspace amplifier, Cardassian escape pod, Enolian vessels, Kobali shuttle, Malcorian ship, Malon freighter 2, Malurian shuttle, Mazarite shuttle & variants, Sikarian ship, Tarkalean freighter, Tellarite shuttle, Tsunkatse ship, Vissian ships, some of the Xindi ships, and several more.

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List of Star Trek Starfleet starships

This is a list of Federation starships from the Star Trek universe. The list is organized first by ship class , then registration number , name , and finally where that vessel was referenced. These vessels appear or are mentioned in the original Star Trek series ( TOS ), Star Trek: The Animated Series ( TAS ), Star Trek: The Next Generation ( TNG ), Star Trek: Deep Space Nine ( DS9 ), Star Trek: Voyager ( VOY ), Star Trek: Enterprise ( ENT ), Star Trek: Discovery ( DSC ), the Star Trek films , Star Trek games , and Star Trek literature . This list tries to avoid using information found in Star Trek fan fiction . Many of the sources for this list are considered non-canon and the list relies heavily on the non-canon The Star Trek Encyclopedia . [1]

Akira class

Ambassador class, andromeda class, antares class, apollo class, archer class, bradbury class, cardenas class, centaur class, challenger class, cheyenne class, chimera class, columbia class, constellation class, constitution class, crossfield class, daedalus class, defiant class, deneva class, dreadnought class, einstein class, engle class, erewhon class, excelsior class, freedom class, galaxy class, galen class, hokule‘a class, hoover class, intrepid class, istanbul class, korolev class, magee class, malachowski class, mediterranean class, merced class, merian class, miranda class, mulciber class, nebula class, new orleans class, niagara class, nimitz class, norway class, oberth class, odyssey class, olympic class, prometheus class, renaissance class, rigel class, saber class, sequoia class, shepard class, sovereign class, soyuz class, springfield class, freedom class (kelvin timeline), steamrunner class, surak class, sydney class, theophrastus class, universe class, vesta class, walker class, wambundu class, wells class, yorkshire class, zodiac class, undetermined class, non-starships and support vessels, danube class runabout, peregrine class fighter, yellowstone class runabout, shuttlecraft.

Named for Greek mythological figure and nearby Andromeda Galaxy .

Named for star Antares .

Named for the ancient Greek solar deity and the American Apollo program ( NASA ).

Scout ship introduced in the Star Trek: The Original Series tie-in novel series Star Trek: Vanguard and its follow-up Star Trek: Seekers . Retroactively named after Captain Jonathan Archer from Star Trek: Enterprise .

Name honors science fiction author Ray Bradbury .

Named for United States Air Force brigadier general Robert Cardenas .

Named for the mythical chimaera .

In the script of the TNG episode " The Battle ," Geordi La Forge identified the Stargazer as a Constitution Class, but it was dubbed to Constellation after the script was changed.

Named for the USS Constitution . (The TOS USS Enterprise dedication plaque refers to this ship class as the "Starship Class".)

Constitution class refit

Ostensibly a refit of the Constitution class, this ship is referred to as " Enterprise class" in Andrew G. Probert's non-canon Star Trek The Motion Picture: 14 Official Blueprints . [52] [53]

Named for American naval officer and test pilot Albert Scott Crossfield who became the first human to fly at twice the speed of sound.

Named for an iconic figure from Greek mythology .

Named for the fictional planet in the TOS episode " Operation: Annihilate! ".

Named for Albert Einstein

Named for American test pilot and astronaut Joe Engle who test-flew the joint NASA–Air Force North American X-15 rocket airplane and the space shuttle Enterprise before eventually commanding the space shuttle Columbia .

This fictional spacecraft design was introduced to the Star Trek sci-fi universe in 1984.

The name may have been supposed to honor the space station that was later simply called ISS .

Presumably named for the Polynesian waʻa kaulua replica

Named for United States Air Force fighter pilot Bob Hoover who revolutionized modern aerobatic flying and in many aviation circles has been described as one of the greatest pilots ever to have lived.

Named for the most populous city in Turkey .

Named for spacecraft designer Sergey Korolyov .

Featured in the Star Trek: Titan novels. All known Luna -class starships were named after moons in the Sol System.

Named for Royal Canadian Air Force fighter pilot and poet John Gillespie Magee Jr.

Named for United States Air Force pilot Nicole Malachowski who became the first female member of the United States Air Force Thunderbirds .

Named for the character in the play The Tempest by William Shakespeare . Also the name of a moon .

Name (in universe) denotes astronomical phenomenon and (real world) pays tribute to the Nebula Award for science fiction writing.

Named for the City of New Orleans . Designated as frigates .

Named for World War II Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz

Ships are named for the NASA Space Shuttle orbiters .

Named after the rocket scientist Hermann Oberth .

Introduced in Star Trek Online .

This class is sometimes erroneously named " Hope class" from an early version of the dedication plaque from the USS Pasteur . [1]

Named for the star Rigel .

Named for American astronaut Alan Shepard who became the first American to travel into space.

Named for the Soviet spacecraft

Named for Vulcan philosopher Surak .

Introduced in Star Trek: Destiny and first visualized in Star Trek Online .

The class was named for NASA test pilot Joe Walker .

Named in honor of science fiction author H. G. Wells .

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June 13, 2024

Jeri Ryan is joining Star Trek: The Cruise in 2025! Get ready for an out of this world adventure with Jeri and the rest of our star-studded crew. Watch this video from Jeri!

Q&A Session

Engage in a Q&A session with Jeri Ryan, known for portraying Seven of Nine in Star Trek: Voyager .

From discussing what Seven of Nine would enjoy most onboard the ship to sharing her perfect weekend, Jeri can’t wait to join us again onboard, Star Trek: The Cruise VIII!

Q: The Voyager 25th anniversary cast reunion on Star Trek: The Cruise IV was so much fun. What are you looking forward to this time around, with even more of your old “crew” on hand for it?

A: Getting to catch up and laugh with all my Trek buds!

Q: “Fun will now commence” is just an infamously great Seven line— and so meme-worthy for a cruise. What do you think the more world-weary Captain Seven would say about vacations and cruises?

A: I think she’d be a particularly big fan of an open bar.

Q: Would the Hansens have been better off with little Annika just exploring the seven seas instead of exploring Borg space?

A: Well, they would have been a lot safer! But I think the storyline would have been infinitely less…let’s say “colorful.”

Q: List out some of your favorites! Music, book, food, color, etc.

A: Music: I love lots of different artists (Pink, Brandy Carlile, Billy Joel, Billie Eilish…) but (to my daughter’s glee) I’m definitely a Swiftie.

Book: Currently finishing “Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow” by Gabrielle Zevin, and it’s just terrific.

Color: Pink (yes, really)

Q: What’s your favorite way to spend a weekend?

A: Relaxing with my family

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The Surprising Reason Star Trek Discovery Re-Used A Ship Design

Posted: June 12, 2024 | Last updated: June 13, 2024

<p>Star Trek: Discovery recently aired a solid and well-received series finale, and the show is rightfully celebrating its current moment in the sun. All these good vibes are almost enough to make us forget how worried we were when the show was unexpectedly canceled, making the fifth season into the last season only after it was mostly finished shooting. Interestingly, Star Trek: Discovery star Sonequa Martin-Green recently disagreed with her showrunner, implying that Michelle Paradise may have secretly known that her show was going to get canceled. </p>

Star Trek is a franchise that has often shamelessly re-used ships and sets whenever possible. As you might expect, the primary reason is to save as much money as possible while producing these expensive episodes. There is one notable exception, though: the Star Trek: Discovery episode “Context Is For Kings” re-uses the Discovery ship design and sets because the plot (involving another ship researching the spore drive) called for another Crossfield-class vessel.

<p>In order to really appreciate how and why Star Trek re-used the Crossfield starship design, you need to know a bit more about the franchise re-using various vessel designs over the decades. In The Original Series, for example, the D7 Battlecruiser was introduced as a Klingon ship design before shamelessly being re-used as a Romulan vessel. Speaking of The Original Series, it’s not a coincidence that Kirk kept running into other Constitution-class ships: such plots allowed the show to re-use the Enterprise model as needed instead of designing something else entirely.</p><p>The same logic applies to interior sets as well: look closely at the Delta Flyer bridge in Voyager and you’ll notice that it’s actually the same bridge as the Defiant from Deep Space Nine. Parts of the Engineering set from The Next Generation were used (ironically enough) to create the Engineering room in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Regarding that film, if you take a closer look at the Federation president’s office, you’ll notice that it’s actually just the Ten Forward set from TNG.</p>

The Tried-And-True Crossfield Design

In order to really appreciate how and why Star Trek re-used the Crossfield starship design, you need to know a bit more about the franchise re-using various vessel designs over the decades. In The Original Series, for example, the D7 Battlecruiser was introduced as a Klingon ship design before shamelessly being re-used as a Romulan vessel. Speaking of The Original Series, it’s not a coincidence that Kirk kept running into other Constitution-class ships: such plots allowed the show to re-use the Enterprise model as needed instead of designing something else entirely.

The same logic applies to interior sets as well: look closely at the Delta Flyer bridge in Voyager and you’ll notice that it’s actually the same bridge as the Defiant from Deep Space Nine. Parts of the Engineering set from The Next Generation were used (ironically enough) to create the Engineering room in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Regarding that film, if you take a closer look at the Federation president’s office, you’ll notice that it’s actually just the Ten Forward set from TNG.

<p>Long story not very short, Star Trek has a storied history of reusing ship exteriors and interiors, but that’s not why the Discovery’s Crossfield design was re-used in the episode “Context Is For Kings.” Originally, the producers wanted to introduce a new ship design in the form of the USS Curie. The ship was going to be a Shepard-class vessel (which admittedly has a pretty cool-looking design).</p>

Potential Use Of Shepard-Class Vessel

Long story not very short, Star Trek has a storied history of reusing ship exteriors and interiors, but that’s not why the Discovery’s Crossfield design was re-used in the episode “Context Is For Kings.” Originally, the producers wanted to introduce a new ship design in the form of the USS Curie. The ship was going to be a Shepard-class vessel (which admittedly has a pretty cool-looking design).

<p>However, before the Star Trek producers decided to re-use the Crossfield design, they had very ambitious plans for the Curie. Designer John Eaves created an entirely new kind of vessel for “Context Is For Kings” and went as far as creating both a physical CG model for the new ship. Eaves also worked extensively in Photoshop to create some cool damage to the ship’s exterior that was meant to illustrate a time warp gone wrong, but it turned out that all of his design efforts were in vain.</p>

If It Ain’t Broke

However, before the Star Trek producers decided to re-use the Crossfield design, they had very ambitious plans for the Curie. Designer John Eaves created an entirely new kind of vessel for “Context Is For Kings” and went as far as creating both a physical CG model for the new ship. Eaves also worked extensively in Photoshop to create some cool damage to the ship’s exterior that was meant to illustrate a time warp gone wrong, but it turned out that all of his design efforts were in vain.

<p>You see, as the “Context Is For Kings” script evolved, producers decided that the new vessel would be one that was damaged during an incident testing out the same kind of spore drive that the Discovery was working on. Because of that, the Star Trek writers simply made the new vessel another Crossfield-style design. Their logic was simple: if you have exactly two ships testing an experimental new propulsion system, then it would make sense that the vessels are physically identical.</p>

Practical Reasons For Tactical Redundancy

You see, as the “Context Is For Kings” script evolved, producers decided that the new vessel would be one that was damaged during an incident testing out the same kind of spore drive that the Discovery was working on. Because of that, the Star Trek writers simply made the new vessel another Crossfield-style design. Their logic was simple: if you have exactly two ships testing an experimental new propulsion system, then it would make sense that the vessels are physically identical.

<p>Thanks to John Eaves, we know that this Star Trek: Discovery episode is one of the only examples in franchise history where a re-used starship (in this case, the Crossfield exterior and interior) design was not done primarily to save money. Still, the Paramount show eventually got their money’s worth out of the new design: look closely during the Battle of the Binary Stars and you’ll see Eaves’ Shepard-class vessels in action. That might give you something more palatable to think about whenever “Context Is For Kings” gives scenes of deformed corpses that channeled David Cronenberg long before he played a character on the show. </p>

Not Done For Budgetary Reasons

Thanks to John Eaves, we know that this Star Trek: Discovery episode is one of the only examples in franchise history where a re-used starship (in this case, the Crossfield exterior and interior) design was not done primarily to save money. Still, the Paramount show eventually got their money’s worth out of the new design: look closely during the Battle of the Binary Stars and you’ll see Eaves’ Shepard-class vessels in action. That might give you something more palatable to think about whenever “Context Is For Kings” gives scenes of deformed corpses that channeled David Cronenberg long before he played a character on the show.

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The USS Defiant had a forgotten holo-filter, used once to deceive Cardassians with a distant disguise.
Star Trek's Gene Roddenberry initially disapproved of such covert technology on Starfleet ships.
The Defiant's holo-filter was limited and not very convincing, leading to its one-time use and eventual abandonment.

The USS Defiant, commanded by Captain Benjamin Sisko in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine had a revolutionary new starship feature that the show swiftly forgot about. Introduced in DS9 season 3, the USS Defiant was a starship of many firsts. It was Starfleet's first warship in decades, initially built to battle the Borg threat but deployed to tackle the Dominion . The USS Defiant also had a cloaking device fitted, which was authorized by the Romulan Star Empire for use in the Gamma Quadrant. The Defiant's cloaking device broke Star Trek rules , but it was necessary to tackle the threat posed by the Dominion.

The USS Defiant's cloaking device wasn't the only covert feature that the starship had in its arsenal, however. In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 3, episode 5, "Second Skin", Major Kira Nerys (Nana Visitor) is kidnapped by the Obsidian Order, forcing Commander Sisko to take the Defiant into Cardassian space. With the use of the cloaking device banned outside the Gamma Quadrant, Sisko had to come up with another way to try and fly the Defiant past Cardassian defenses. So, for the first and only time, the Deep Space Nine crew used the Defiant's holo-filter.

One of Ronald D. Moore's first jobs on Star Trek: DS9 was to name the starship that would become the Defiant, and Voyager vetoed his first choice.

Sisko’s Defiant Had A Holofilter That Star Trek Forgot About

The Defiant's holo-filter could change the appearance of someone during visual communications with other ships . In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 3, episode 4, "Second Skin", Sisko used this feature to disguise himself as a Kobheerian freighter captain. As impressive as the technology was, the Defiant's holo-filter was only functional from a distance. Lt. Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) tells Sisko that if the Cardassian patrol got closer, it would identify the Defiant as a Starfleet warship and not a humble Kobheerian freighter.

The footage of the Kobheerian captain was from the DS9 season 1 episode "Duet", but actor Norman Large was not credited for his appearance.

This is the only time that the USS Defiant uses a holo-filter in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , but it wasn't the last time that the technology was deployed. In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 5, episode 1, "Apocalypse Rising", Gul Dukat (Marc Alaimo) uses a holo-filter to pretend to be a Klingon Warrior while smuggling Sisko and his team into enemy territory. After this point, however, the holo-filter was never used again.

What Happened To The USS Defiant’s Holofilter In Star Trek?

Although a neat feature that would have helped the USS Defiant infiltrate the Gamma Quadrant in the years leading up to Star Trek 's Dominion War , the holo-filter was potentially just as controversial as a cloaking device. Gene Roddenberry famously objected to Starfleet ships having cloaking devices because " our guys don't sneak around ". It's possible that Rick Berman, the custodian of the Star Trek legacy after Roddenberry's death in 1991, decided that a holo-filter was similarly underhanded.

A one-off use of the holo-filter was probably signed off by Berman because, ultimately, Elim Garak (Andrew Robinson) convinced Sisko to turn it off and confront the Cardassians directly. It was also very limited, only useful from a specific distance. The most likely reason that the USS Defiant never used the holo-filter is the fact that it wasn't all that useful in convincing a Cardassian patrol that Sisko was a humble freighter captain. Which is why "Second Skin" was the one-and-only appearance of the Defiant's holo-filter in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine .

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| June 12, 2024 | By: TrekMovie.com Staff 48 comments so far

Executive producer Alex Kurtzman has launched several Star Trek series over the past seven years, with another ( Starfleet Academy ) and a streaming movie ( Section 31) on the way. These shows have spanned multiple time periods which included jumping the franchise forward into the 32nd century for Discovery , which will also be the setting for the Academy show. The producer is now talking about his approach to balancing references to previous Trek series, how they approach Starfleet tech in the 32nd century, and where he sees the franchise going in the future.

Kurtzman worries about “annoying” fan service

Over the last weekend, Paramount+ held an Emmy FYC event for Discovery and Strange New Worlds with Alex Kurtzman and VFX supervisor Jason Zimmerman talking about the latest seasons of the shows. The event was moderated by Christian Blauvelt of IndieWire , which released a video of the full talk (which you can see below). With the latest seasons of Strange New Worlds and Discovery putting the focus on the Gorn and the Breen respectively, Kurtzman responded to a question of how they approach making references to elements of Trek lore to fit within the new stories:

There are lots of conversations in the writers room about [if a Trek reference is needed for the story]. And if you take on something like the Breen, and there was obviously a lot of mystery about the Breen. What do they look like? You have to be able to answer that question, but you also have to choose the Breen because they operate a certain way that works for the story. It was perfect for Bonnie and Clyde story. It was very interesting to make L’ak part of part of the Breen and understand what that culture was suddenly all about. So it wasn’t really just fan service. I think typically fan service can be very annoying. If you do it wrong and you’re sort of tipping your hat to it, but you’re not actually giving it any depth, it actually feels weirdly like it achieves the opposite of what you’re intending to do. So you really need to come up with a very strong reason to do it.

Breen in Star Trek: Discovery episode 509 (Michael Gibson/Paramount+)

Explaining 32nd-century tech

Discovery jumped into the 32nd century for its third season, introducing fans to a whole new era, complete with new designs for Starfleet and beyond. Kurtzman talked about how they have (and will) approach the future tech behind these designs:

There’s an army of people who pore over every aspect of every season so you’re always looking for what was the last, closest era? What did we see there and then how would we evolve from there? The continuity from Enterprise all the way to Discovery— you want to feel that each show in some form is represented in the sum total of what Discovery looks like or what anything in the 32nd century looks like. We took a risk in the 32nd century because we started separating the ship parts in a way that hadn’t been done before. And in Starfleet Academy we will end up explaining how that works. Which is actually interesting, because one of the questions that we always ask ourselves is: What is the reality of this? It can’t be magic, so what’s actually going on there?

The YA-focused Starfleet Academy series is set to go into production at the end of this summer in Toronto. Paramount+ just announced Paul Giamatti has been added to the cast in a recurring role as the main villain for the first season, joining Holly Hunter, who is playing the chancellor of the Academy.

Starfleet in the 32nd century

Limitless storytelling for Star Trek Universe

At the start of the panel, Kurtzman reflected on the journey that started with the launch of Discovery in 2017 and how he sees more opportunities for the Star Trek Universe:

It’s been an amazing, incredible ride for everybody. I don’t think we envisioned when we started Discovery that it was going to become six television shows and a movie. And I think as a fan of Star Trek to to be able to see so many different corners of the universe expanding and expanding, what it’s only affirmed for me is that it is one of those truly rare and precious gems. That it’s is a limitless well of storytelling to draw from. You could go on forever and ever and ever. And so then the question becomes: how do you do it and how do you keep it fresh and original? And how do you make sure that each show feels different from every other show. But it’s been a total joy and amazing, you know, partnership with so many extraordinary artists.

The panel wrapped up with him responding to a question about where he sees things in five years:

My hope is that the [Star Trek] Universe can continue to grow, but that it will only grow if we have new stories to tell and ways to innovate Star Trek. That’s really all I care about, honestly. The journey has been wonderful, but it’s also been — as the cliché says — the destination. Because making the shows, as hard as they are, is such a joy. Fundamentally, we get to do such exciting things creatively. Firstly, I hope five years from now the world is less bumpy. I’m not confident that that will be the case, but I really hope that it is. And if it is less bumpy, then maybe Star Trek will get a little more boring, which wouldn’t be a bad thing, because we wouldn’t have so much conflict to have to interpret. I hope that Star Trek can continue to be the lens that allows us to understand who we are.

That last bit of him joking about Trek becoming boring refers to earlier remarks he made about how he has tried to carry on Gene Roddenberry’s “perfect template” of using science fiction storytelling as “an allegory or metaphor for what’s going on now.”

Watch full panel

Here (via IndieWire) is the full Paramount+ FYC panel with Alex Kurtzman and Jason Zimmerman.

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Floating nacelles is an interesting option for those times when you might need to navigate some irregular area or something, but for normal flight it seems like a mammoth waste of energy, and it takes some of the elegance out of the designs.

Say the expert in fictional technology

There’s unnecessary energy loss. Period.

Unless that universe uses a different physics from this one.

Ignore that person. He/she just likes to create fights for no reason.

And what kind of expert are you: This is science FICTION. No one is an expert and stop being stuck up.

I always liked the idea that the detached nacelles contained their own warp cores, and the primary hull had a warp sustainer, so that if a Burn ever happened again while the ship was at warp, the nacelles would fail and collapse the warp field, but the primary hull would just coast away out of danger while the nacelles blew up in the rear view mirror.

That seems reasonable.

That sounds reasonable but I wish it was explained in canon.

Like they had to explain why holograms suddenly weren’t a thing anymore on the Enterprise back in DSC S2 after getting criticism for being inconsistent in S1? the whole conceit of the spore drive is really pretty silly in it’s own right.. and this seems equally so. It’s dumb to try to go down that road… It’s going to invite even more criticism. You’ve done it.. so just leave it alone and let it be. Focus on good stories and not these silly technobabble explanations that have no rooting in reality.

The Spore drive is stupid. In the 23rd century they had the ability to go anywhere in the galaxy instantaneously but in the 24th century Voyager gets stuck 70,000 light years away? No. Just no. Kurtzman can make up all the excuses he wants, his reasons are plain stupid.

They introduced the floating nacelles – which look like the designers forcing futuristic things to look more futuristic – and then showed them as a huge weakness a couple of episodes later. Yet another bad writing problem with Disco.

I have no issues with it. After all, it IS a TV show.

TBH, “after all it is a tv show” is a weak excuse. Star Trek deserves better than that.

It’s not actually an excuse. It is the reality of the situation, whether you like it or not. A light saber doesn’t make much sense either… but then again, it is from a movie. Not an excuse…reality of the situation.

In other news Star Trek Legacy has secured filming rights to Shadybrook retirement community.

Will the day ever come where you make an ounce of sense?

Half the ships seen in Star Trek don’t have nacelles and can warp just fine. Should have done away with them.

I’ve enjoyed a lot of aspects of the Kurtzman era, and I think fans tend to trash him too much. But the floating nacelles never made sense. All it would take to render that kind of starship useless would be to knock out the wireless communication between the different pieces.

Nothing about the 32nd century was ever good. Star Trek is supposed to be about humanity advancing and getting better, not being blown to holy hell.

Like so many things in Discovery itself the nacelle thing is just silly. Maybe Academy will be a better show overall but I have very little interest in thus far because I don’t care about Discovery or the 32nd century connections.

Wow good to see you again. I don’t think I had an exchange with you in months and that was right after the former Resident Lunatic finally got banned after how he treated you and being a crazy person to everyone here for weeks. That was the end of March IIRC. I thought maybe after that you just decided to move on. But maybe you have been posting and I just been missing them. I haven’t really been here that much myself lately.

Annnyway, did you watch the Discovery finale? What did you think? I think I already know the answer lol.

I’m very torn on the Academy show too but I’m staying open minded for now. At least the actors they got so far are a big plus.

Happy to see you again! 🙂

Haha no, perish the thought!

And yes haven’t seen you here in a long while either. I just don’t really come that often, and don’t click on every thread either. If you don’t see a post for me in one then it means I probably didn’t click on it. But that is really the main reason, just don’t post much generally, just whatever takes my fancy.

As for your Discovery question, I didn’t watch the season outside the first episode so I have zero thoughts on it besides the opening episode.

I can’t remember who I told this too, but either Danpaine or Tiger2 but I said I had heard people liking the season more and decided to give the first two episodes a chance. If I liked them then I would keep watching. If not just stop there. I didn’t get past the first episode unfortunately. It wasn’t horrible but it was still the same annoying issues I have with the show and every one discussing their feelings, more boring villains who wants to take down the galaxy and a lot of high school dialogue.

I did like the connection to The Chase being one of my favorite episodes.

I also liked that one new character. I can’t remember his name but he becomes the first officer but it wasn’t enough for me to keep watching. But I heard it was more popular this season so that’s good. Even one of my FB besties who has been a Trek friend for over ten years said she thought it was OK and liked it and she hated all the previous seasons like me. But she said I would probably still hate it and she knows me very well haha.

Maybe one day I will try and watch it and finish the last two seasons since I never finished those either. I just can’t click with it I guess.

But I truly hope everyone who likes the show really enjoyed it. I’m sorry but I don’t remember your personal feelings on the show. I think you were always a big fan of it. Am I right or getting you mixed up with someone else? If so please don’t overthink my negativity about it. I know many people love it. I don’t want anyone to feel bad, it’s just my personal perspective only. I think third season of TOS is even worse than Discovery is and that’s my favorite show lol.

But I do remember you telling me how much of a huge LDS and Prodigy fan you are haha. And you will be happy to know I finally gave Prodigy a try and absolutely adored it. All the characters are fabulous, the stories are really fun and clever and you can’t go wrong having Janeway back! I finished season one last month and now very excited for season two. 🙂

As for SFA, I have no excitement for it but I will try and stay open minded about it. It just makes it hard to care when it’s based off of Discovery. Hopefully it will be better than that show at least and also loving the casting choices so far, so there is hope.

Thank you for reaching out dear. Great to see you as well. And look at that, this post was longer than two sentences too! 😁

“I’m sorry but I don’t remember your personal feelings on the show. I think you were always a big fan of it.”

No that’s definitely NOT me. 🤣

Maybe the MU version of me thinks it’s amazing and Star Treks GOT, but in the prime universe version of me thinks the show still mostly sucks lol.

But I thought season 5 was mostly OK or it sucked the least out of the others. That’s high praise coming from me. 😁

I definitely had issues with it and a lot of the episodes still felt mostly useless but I wasn’t as bored like last season and no super cringe moments for me. Burnham still whispered her way through every mission but lot less crying for a change. That’s a win for me.

Oh there was one episode where it looked like Tilly could die and would’ve been my favorite episode of the entire show if it happened but spoilers…she lived.

Anyway,I actually liked the finale, much more than I thought. And it was the first one I liked lol. And revealing Kovich was secretly Agent Daniels was easily the best part! 😄 Even some of the bigger Discovery haters seemed pretty happy about that. I’m really hoping he will be part of SFA now.

I didn’t really post here as much last few months as well. I mainly talked about Discovery on Reddit this season and Trekcre. To be honest not a lot of people was discussing the season here or TC that much but a little more on Reddit so where I mostly went.

But even if I did enjoy the show more you don’t have to apologize for just being honest about your opinion. I have never cared about what other people think aboutTV shows or movies. Most of us understand that you come to a Star Trek board to give raw feelings about the show or movie even if it’s not always pleasant. And there was only ONE person here who was so triggered over people knocking the show he fought with everybody and got himself banned by acting like an immature and unhinged spoiled child. Its been a pretty easy going place since he’s been bounced and he knows it too.

As far as you deciding not to watch it that was probably a good call if you didn’t like the opening episode. The show always starts off stronger than it ends and I still felt the same way about this season even though I thought it mostly stuck to landing for a change.

Maybe one day you’ll give it another chance. I do think the show will get more popular in time like all the others have. I’ll probably be dead by the time that happens though lol.

And I guess season 3 of TOS is really that bad. Explains why I never watched it lol. I seen 3 or 4 episodes of it but that’s it. 😉

And lastly so happy you gave Prodigy and chance and liked it. I’m literally trying to convince another old fan on Trekcre to give it a chance and especially since like you he has hated most of the new live action shows. He doesn’t even like SNW.

But it proves why that show had a steeper climb when even old super fans were passing on it without even a glance. But can’t wait for season 2!

Fun talk! Thanks!

LOL perish the thought!

Hi Bud. Who are we talking about?

Yes indeed, everything in the 32nd century is more magic then science fiction .. they missed the “science” part in “science fiction”

Doug Drexler did an interview with TrekYards back in 2015 and he talked about how he wanted bluetooth engines for the Enterprise-J. He correctly stated that the more counterintuitive a design, the more futuristic it is. And this goes all the way back to TOS. Back then, people complained about the pylons, but usually, the more spindly they are, that means they’ve got futuristic alloys that are stronger than anything we’ve got…transparent aluminum, anyone??

We have that…

Transparent aluminum is actually a thing today.

I have no idea why The President of Star Trek would say this

And if it is less bumpy, then maybe Star Trek will get a little more boring ,

You’re selling an entertainment product, a frivolous thing as a way to spend (or waste) time on Earth. You’ve now put Star Trek in the same sentence as the word boring. Good job, President Kurtzman.

I hope that Star Trek can continue to be the lens that allows us to understand who we are.

That’s a boring way to summarize Star Trek .

You know.. Trek used to do that. But it hasn’t under his purview. Secret Hideout Trek is a sounding board, where you can be pandered too. The best dramas pose questions and let the viewer decide. The writers and producers of this iteration of Trek have used Trek’s progressive past as justification and affirmation that it should preach to its audience. Growing up in a conservative household in the south, TOS Trek wasn’t the only reason I was able to think for myself, but it’s part of the stew that got me there. Why? Because it asked tough questions through moral and ethical quandaries and allegory that gave me things to think about. Modern Trek trys to tell you how to think. All that does is preach to one side. So no, modern Trek is not a lens for anything but those who are already a part of the virtues it espouses.

To each their own, I guess. I’ve never felt modern Trek tries to tell me how to think.

It doesn’t even work for that last part you mention, because I’d be nearly all-in on those virtues, but not when the storytelling and characterization and SF are all so miserably handled.

When peak TV was happening and we got that surge in “Prestige Dramas,” it was a shame that Star Trek went the route of “Game of Thrones done Xena & Stargate-style?” rather than aim for Mad Men, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad. Sure, maybe that tone worked for one of the shows, but they’re all basically made the same way — look the same, sound the same, have similar dramatic devices & turns.

I read the phrase “the virtues it espouses” a very specific way that has nothing to do with my comment and doesn’t reflect a view that I share; so I’ll only say that I think all of the shows have done the least interesting versions of their own ideas, whether that’s imagining future tech, deciding on what stories to tell, juggling their season arcs, and oftentimes, characterization. Lower Decks is a sitcom and Prodigy is for children so they don’t need to be held to any standards, but because of the animation medium those shows actually put a little more tender loving care into the fan service and storytelling shortcuts. The pandering, sloppiness, and surprisingly cheap-looking “adult shows” really make it difficult to connect how Star Trek is discussed with the end product. The gap between what the stewards of Star Trek say about it and what they produce with its name on it is so vast you’d need a snap from Q to traverse it.

Discovery taught me that teamwork is for suckers, crying about everything is healthy, and talking about feelings regardless of the urgency of the task in front of you, is paramount. Paramount plus!

I genuinely don’t care what a rationale for them would be. They are ugly and overly busy and utterly unappealing.

When I was a kid I thought the more in the future the better with ships with crews of 1000000 going warp 9.9999999999 with 100000000 photon torpedo launchers and 100000 mega-phaser strips hitting the Andromeda Galaxy in 6 seconds. Unfortunately it does not play out. Such a ship would look lame and hard to follow with little to no tactics or strategy. You can only follow 8 people max on the bridge. Call it maturity but you eventually realize the brilliance of the Star Trek writers guide that goes something along the lines of : “Could be 1999 or 2800, it’s in the future but not too far in the future that remains relatable”. The guns are fancy, but you still need a gun. i.e. You don’t want it where people on Earth are starving, but you don’t want it where the colonists are staying in a hotel either. If everyone is good and joins the Federation, where is the conflict? If there are a 100000 starships, the action of one ship doesn’t have the same impact where it is 1/12 of the Starfleet. This is where the Starfleet Academy show will have problems, but luckily they can overcome some of that by having to rebuild the Federation. Still, I think the future is going to be a hard Trek reboot with a more “Yellowstone meets SpaceX” start.

Sorry to be off topic but since this site posts news about ST comics I’d thought I’d mention but I’m sure some of you might be aware about Benny the Comicstorian’s tragic death a few days ago. While he didn’t cover Star Trek comics he did do Star Wars. I was gutted when I heard the news

Of course when Discovery finally gets good it gets canceled. I’m not terribly exited about an Academy show but since they are able to produce actually very entertaining great Star Trek I will check it out. For now I would say new Trek has been 85% good to great and the rest was crap that really won’t age well and will make the audience facepalm even 20 years from now. But Trek has always had this kind of ratio.

I guess I’m one of the weirdos here who never had a problem with the separate nacelles. I know they were just trying to give the 32nd century its own identity but I get why others hate it too.

Hopefully the 32nd century period will be stronger with SFA. But I do have to give Kurtzman credit, he did take a huge gamble going that far into the future.

Most people here would be fine if we just got more Spock, Seven or Janeway for the next ten years; but it was refreshing to have a show that couldn’t just rely on the past or fan service anymore…even though they still tried lol.

But that’s also why season 5 seems to be more popular. It was able to go its own way but still leaned on TNG and others to keep some fans happy or coming back. If season 1 did a little more of that from the outset instead of ignoring so much of Canon out the gate, maybe it would’ve had a better reception initially.

We’ll never know of course but they gave it their all in the final season. I’m kind of now curious how season 6 would’ve turned out if they didn’t cancel it.

I didn’t really have a problem per se they just never made sense to me. The great thing about Star Trek is historically tech has always made sense, right down to being applicable to real world applications. This new generation of Trek has tech for ‘reasons’ rather than explainable options.

My issue is more to do with a lot of the new tech just being hastily come up with, and the crew just instantly adapts to it. I miss when a show would slow down and explore things. Discovery didn’t even give these characters outside of Burnham any time to grieve the people and lives they left behind, let alone figure out how to use the magi– I mean programmable matter.

SFA having the lead time to retroactively figure this stuff out and expand on it is great, and what Disco season 3 ideally would have had to properly world build.

Transporting to another room on the same ship will never not look stupid though. ;)

Fan service, fan service, fan service.

I’ve been watching a lot of old convention footage where, for instance, De Kelley gets up and says – we’re doing this for the love of the fans. Those days are well over.

The current lot are a mess of contradictions. It’s either Picard season 3 or Lower Decks, which are absolutely packed full of all sorts of nods to the past (perhaps too much), which feel a little like a consolation prize for a subset of fans to keep them quiet.

Then you’ve got endless rehashes of the same ideas and, in some cases, characters and stories, which are at best boring and at worst completely lazy and disrespectful to what came before.

And finally, you’ve got new ideas that don’t seem to land right consistently, alongside a total disregard for canon – whether visually or otherwise. Marry that with an open contempt for fans who care about this (and anyone who was involved in Trek pre-Abram’s era) and well, it’s not great.

All of the above – the desperation, the retreading old ground, the iffy new stuff, the defensiveness – are symptoms of the bigger problem.

Which is, to put it succinctly, a severe drop in competence from the writers and producers.

It’s not just Star Trek – it’s everywhere. Standards have collapsed – and this is, I think, because being a good writer or producer has been overshadowed by an unholy combination of pleasing the suits and being an activist.

Agreed! The thing that drives me crazy is the plagiarism in the writer’s room. They take others ideas and pass them off as their own. They give no credit to the original writers.

Floating nacelles…a Starfleet HQ that flies at warp speed…spore drives..never seen such nonsense, which is why I have no time for Discovery.

The campus in the Star Trek: Starfleet Academy series better have an interactive hologram of Boothby that dispenses sage advice to the students that need it…

I’m still not seeing an explanation of why nacelles need to be detached from the hull of the ship

I’m really hoping that the Starfleet Academy shows does a better job of actually showing the various ships. One of my biggest complaints about DISCO was that, for some reason, starting all the way back in Season 1, TPTB (at least appeared to be) super reluctant in having any beauty of the various ships. Things got a bit better once we jumped to the 32nd century, but even then I’d be hard pressed to identify any 32nd century ships (I think the top pic is of the USS Mitchell, but only because that is the only ship I can remember getting a good look at). I remember in season 1 having a really hard time discerning what the various Klingon ships actually looked like as the space shots were both dark and shimmering, make all the ships look slightly out of focus, and thus making any level detail near impossible to tell. I didn’t even understand what the Klingon cleave ship truly looked like until the season 2 finale.

One Star Trek Actor Is Switching Universes, Joining DC In Peacemaker Season 2

A "Star Trek" actor is jumping (star)ship to another major franchise, in a development that's sure to be of interest to DC superhero fans. The Hollywood Reporter has the scoop that Sol Rodriguez, most well known for starring in several episodes of "Star Trek: Picard" season 2 as Doctor Teresa Ramirez during the storyline set in present-day Los Angeles, has been cast in season 2 of yet another streaming series (they also add that "The Office" actor David Denman has joined the cast as well, in an undisclosed role). Rodriguez is reportedly set to join James Gunn's "Peacemaker" show, which is currently in the midst of production after taking a bit of a lengthy break as a result of Gunn's busy schedule and, of course, the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes that shut down the industry last year.

As for which character she'll be portraying? That's none other than fan-favorite DC icon Sasha Bordeaux, a figure so famous and popular that I've never actually heard of her until now. In all seriousness, the character historically has roots as part of Batman's supporting cast, initially created by writers Greg Rucka and Shawn Martinbrough and first arriving in the pages of DC Comics in 2000. In her earliest conception, Sasha was written as a martial artist and bodyguard to Bruce Wayne who eventually learns his secret identity as Gotham's Dark Knight. After being framed alongside Wayne for the murder of his ex-girlfriend (it's a long story), a near-death experience in prison leaves her scarred and disfigured, necessitating plastic surgery and a new identity that puts her in the company of villains like Maxwell Lord.

So, how will her appearance in "Peacemaker" unfold? Read on for all the details!

Peacemaker season 2 will introduce Sasha Bordeaux

Ever since "Peacemaker" season 1 came to an end back in February of 2022, fans have wondered when they'd see John Cena's antihero Christopher Smith again after his scene-stealing appearance in James Gunn's "The Suicide Squad" and, more importantly, what else the new DC Studios boss would have up his sleeve in the aftermath of his brush with the villainous organization A.R.G.U.S. and its various agents involved with "Project Butterfly." We do know that much of the (surviving) original cast will be appearing, as will new addition Frank Grillo as Rick Flag, Sr. , the father to Joel Kinnaman's character (who was killed at the hands of Peacemaker himself in Gunn's 2021 DC film).

Now, Sol Rodriguez will be thrown into the fray in a recurring appearance as Sasha Bordeaux. Her specific narrative role in "Peacemaker" will almost assuredly be reworked once again for her live-action debut. (DC has a long and storied tradition of doing that, you may have noticed.) Gunn's streaming series will be one of the few preexisting DC properties to survive the big transition over to the new and rebooted universe, meaning that there's no need to worry about any continuity issues regarding the broader franchise. For Sasha in particular, the character isn't likely considered to be entrenched enough for any fans to cry foul over any big issues (deepest apologies to all the Sasha Bordeaux super-fans who will undoubtedly crawl out of the woodwork now). Time will tell how Gunn will approaches this upcoming sophomore season of "Peacemaker," which will hit Max sometime next year.

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