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Miam Miam Dodo Voie de Paris/Tours - Édition 2024-2025

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La voie de Paris-Tours , aussi appelée Via Turonensis, est une voie qui laissera au pèlerin de Saint Jacques des souvenirs inoubliables. Elle s’étend sur un peu plus de 1 000 kilomètres et peu après Paris, le chemin se sépare en deux branches : par Chartres ou par Orléans, avant de se retrouver à Tours.

C’est la voie la plus ancienne et celle qui fut la plus parcourue autrefois. C'est aussi celle qui est la plus riche sur le plan monumental. Il ne se passera pas une journée sans que ne s'offre au pèlerin un joyau d'art roman, posé là voici plus de dix siècles par de fiers compagnons bâtisseurs. Sur le plan physique, c'est la plus facile des quatre voies jacquaires majeures. Le relief y est très modeste sur tout le trajet. Pour les adeptes du pèlerinage à vélo, ce sera une bonne raison d'y aller, notamment avec la présence de la voie verte des bords de Loire d'Orléans à Tours.

Le « plus » : pour ceux qui pratiquent une section du Chemin chaque année, elle est très facile à fractionner car elle toujours proche d'une ligne de chemin de fer, notamment la ligne TGV qui relie Paris à Bordeaux.

Retrouvez la toute nouvelle édition du guide référence pour randonner sur les Chemins de Compostelle - Voie de Tours . Elle comprend :

toutes les informations pour savoir où manger et où dormir dans un rayon de 4km de part et d’autres du Chemin : accueil religieux, hôtels, gîtes d’étape, chambres d’hôtes, campings, restaurants, épiceries, boulangeries, centres de santé, pharmacies, etc…

• une cartographie ultra-précise (1cm = 375m)
• les dénivelés et temps de marche
• un code couleur indiquant les difficultés
• les plans de villes détaillés
• les informations historiques, pratiques et religieuses
• et un outil d’aide à la création des étapes.

Ce guide est mis à jour tous les deux ans.

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The miam miam dodo guides to walking in france.

One of the best resources for Santiago pilgrims and other long-distance walkers in France is a series of guides with the funny name Miam Miam Dodo. This is French baby talk that roughly translates to “Yum Yum Nighty Night”.

Or, as the fabulous Google language translator reads it, “Yummy Sleeping”.

(By the way, the Google translators are great tools for planning a trip, writing emails to request information or make reservations, and for learning a language. Although the translations are sometimes amusing – as above – and often need a bit of interpretation themselves, they generally do a good job of getting the point across.)

MMD is not a trail guide, per se. Rather, it’s a supplementary guide filled with information about where to find food ( nourriture ), drink ( boissons ), sleep accommodations ( hébergements, logements ), provisions ( ravitaillement ), water ( l’eau ), other services and transportation.

Each pair of pages has a map showing a rough, dotted line of the trail, with a numbered list of resources in each village the trail passes through, or near. Anything useful within 5 kilometers (3 miles) of the trail is indicated. The opposite page has detailed address and contact information keyed to the numbers on the map. Although some roads, side trails and variants are shown, they are not intended for navigation. Whereas each member of a group of walkers might carry a trail guide, they can probably share a single Miam Miam Dodo.

The first thing I like about Miam Miam Dodo guides is their attitude. There’s a true ultralighter’s sensitivity to weight, how to minimize it and how to shed it. It’s designed to be expendable. The back cover even shows the weight of the whole book, and the weight after removing the introductory pages. For example, the guide on the route from Arles, states that the total weight is 210 grams (7.4 ounces), but only 175 grams without the prologue. That’s over an ounce right there!

They are printed on thin newsprint, and it’s easy to tear out the pages (several a day) as you move along the trail. In practice, I also remove the covers, further reducing the starting weight.

Secondly, the guides are written by experienced walkers who know what’s important for happy walkers to stay happy on the trail. They are updated annually, and are informed by reports and comments from other hikers. In a very concise, visual form, they provide detailed information about the most common needs of a randonneur , whether traveling on foot, bicycle, with a donkey, or in some cases, in a kayak or canoe.

All of Miam Miam Dodos have a common style. Here are examples of two facing pages from the 2007 edition of the GR 653, Voie d’Arles guide. Note – the latest edition extends the coverage from Col du Somport (on the Spanish border) all the way to Puente la Reina, where the route joins the famous Camino Frances . They’re getting better all the time!

Bottom line…

If you plan to walk one of the trails covered by Miam Miam Dodo, these are the single best and simplest guides to the services you’ll need. One of these, along with the relevant topoguide from FFRandonnée, will give you most of the available choices for whatever you’ll need. If you’re prepping your first pilgrimage, it’s worth buying one to study before you go, but you can also buy the latest edition when you get to France. Highly recommended by Longwalking.

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I may have missed it – how much does the Miam Miam Dodo book cost? I will probably pick up one in Le Puy before I begin my walk.

Thanks, Nancy

Hi Nancy, The current price of the Miam Miam Dodo for the chemin du Puy is 17 euros. I was there in June and remember seeing it at the Cathedral bookstore. Enjoy your walk!

Hi, Do they have the Miam Miam Dodo in English? Thanks Shmulik

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Devenu une institution pour de nombreux pèlerins (utilisé par plus d'un randonneur sur deux), ce guide existe sur le chemin du Puy depuis 1997, sur la section espagnole de puis 2004, sur le chemin d'Arles depuis 2006 et sur le chemin Stevenson / chemin de Saint-Gilles depuis 2009 et plus récemment en 2021 sur la voie de Paris / Tours. C'est grâce au Miam Miam Dodo, véritable bible du pèlerin, que j'ai compris que mon rêve de partir un jour sur les chemins de Compostelle pouvait rapidement devenir une réalité. En 2013, j'ai réalisé que me lancer à l'aventure était désormais possible et à la portée de tous. Plus qu'un topo-guide, il m'a été très utile pour préparer mes étapes en fonction de mes choix, de mes exigences de confort, de mon budget, mais surtout grâce aux différents niveaux de difficulté et courbes d'altitude indiquées sur chaque carte.

Plus que la notion de chemin, le miam-miam-dodo privilégie la notion de fuseau .

Tous les hébergements sont répertoriés sur une distance de 4-5 km de part et d'autre de l'itinéraire. Le cycliste pourra faire sans problème un détour, mais le pèlerin à pied après une journée de 8 heures de marche ne trouve souvent plus la force, ni le courage de faire quelques kilomètres supplémentaires. Certains hébergeurs (pour certains d'anciens pèlerins) le savent bien et proposent parfois de vous transporter jusqu'à leur hébergement, puis de vous ramener au petit matin sur le chemin au même endroit.

Grâce au Miam Miam Dodo, vous connaitrez tous les tarifs à l'avance, la capacité d'accueil et le mode de fonctionnement de chaque structure d'hébergement.

Vous pourrez donc :

- soit réserver à l'avance, quelques semaines avant pour les plus prévoyants,

- soit appeler seulement la veille pour le lendemain,

- ou encore vous présenter directement le jour J à la porte des hébergements qui restent pour la plupart réservés en priorité aux marcheurs de passage,

Vous le constaterez dans le miam miam dodo, on y trouve toutes les précisions sur les services disponibles dans les hébergements, comme l'accès à la messagerie internet, la possibilité de recevoir des ânes, des chevaux, des chiens, ou encore la mise à disposition d'un lave-linge, d'une cuisine collective, la présence d'une piscine, mais également si des langues étrangères y sont parlées, si le paiement par carte bancaire est possible, etc.. etc...

Chaque année ce guide est remis à jour, en incorporant les nouveaux hébergements et les changements signalés par les pèlerins eux-mêmes. Les données de l'ensemble des structures d'accueil sont revérifiées par téléphone; les informations sont croisées par la suite avec les mairies et les offices de tourisme. Parfois quelques hébergements sont effacés du guide, soit parce que les informations données par téléphone n'ont pas été respectées, soit parce que l'hygiène semble douteuse (trop de plaintes signalées) ou parce que l'accueil laisse à désirer.

Grace à son vaste réseau de veille, le miam-miam-dodo répertorie ainsi quasiment 800 hébergements rien qu'entre Le Puy-en-Velay et les Pyrénées. Ainsi vous ne risquerez pas de dormir dehors pas plus que de vous perdre au beau milieu des bois.

La carte, à l'échelle exceptionnelle de I cm = 375 m, vous permettra de calculer non seulement vos étapes en fonction de votre capacité physique, mais aussi en tenant compte de la distance entre chaque hébergements, grâce à des petites bornes kilométriques signalées entre deux épinglettes (comme on peut le voir sur une carte routière classique).

De nombreux repères (carrefours, rivières, hameaux, fontaines, etc ...), vous permettront également au cours de la journée de suivre l'avancée de votre parcours au fil de l'eau.

La carte vous permettra de voir au premier coup d'œil de quel hébergement il s'agit (gîtes d'étape, hôtels, chambre d'hôtes, camping, abris etc...), et si l'hébergeur prépare ou non le repas du soir, midi, le petit déjeuner ou des paniers repas...

Enfin, d'autres icônes très utiles indiquent les services indispensables au pèlerin : la présence d'une boulangerie, d'une épicerie, d'une pharmacie, etc... Sans oublier les icônes indiquant les points d'eau potable et fontaines qui pourront un jour vous tirer d'un mauvais pas.

Miam Miam Dodo la Carte GR 65

Alors si vous vous posez encore des questions pratiques sur les chemins de Compostelle :

- quand partir ?

- que dois-je emmener avec moi ?

- quel budget prévoir ?

- combien de temps ?

- où dormir ?

- quel chemin ?

Faites comme moi, commandez le guide de préparation Compostelle Mode d'Emploi.

Contacts utiles pour commander votre Miam Miam Dodo :

[email protected]

http://www.levieuxcrayon.com /

https://www.facebook.com/miam.miam.dodo

https://www.facebook.com/groups/miammiamdodo

A découvrir aussi la toute nouvelle collection des guides culturels :

https://www.levieuxcrayon.com/collections/compostelle-visite-guidee

Enfin, si vous vous demandez pourquoi ce guide a un nom si particulier lisez ce qui suit : l'appellation "miam-miam-dodo "remonterait au moyen âge :

"Ce vocable signifie "MInister AMat DOminum" - "Le serviteur aime son Maître". Le Maître, ici, bien sûr c'est notre Seigneur Dieu. C'est une invocation que psalmodiaient les moines dans les temps anciens, avant que la règle de Saint Benoit ne bouscule les vieux usages ». Le miam-miam-dodo médiéval est aujourd'hui pieusement conservé aux archives de la Cité du Vatican."

Cliquez sur ce lien si vous voulez connaître la belle histoire du miam-miam-dodo :-)

Qui est à l'origine du Miam Miam Dodo ?

Fort de ses 20 années d'expérience, le Miam Miam Dodo est avant tout un guide pensé par un pèlerin pour les pèlerins.

Aujourd'hui, pour partager l'histoire d'une passion pour le Chemin de Compostelle, ce sont pas moins de huit collaborateurs qui restent au plus près des hébergeurs, des marcheurs, des associations jacquaires, mais également des offices de tourisme. Ils ont pour mission de vous proposer un guide qui soit le plus utile et le plus précis possible.

Mais à l'origine de cette belle entreprise, il y a un homme à l'esprit d'aventure.

Qui est Jacques Clouteau, créateur du Miam Miam Dodo ?

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Jacques est d'abord un homme libre et indépendant. Passionné de randonnée au long cours, il a parcouru depuis près de trente ans des milliers de kilomètres à pied à travers toute l'Europe.

Depuis 1993, il marche au rythme de son fidèle âne, Ferdinand avec qui il a passé 19 ans de bonheur et de complicité. Ce duo infatigable a d'abord relié en dix semaines les 1 700 kilomètres du Puy en Velay à la Galice en Espagne, puis arpenté d'autres chemins au Portugal, en Italie, Grèce, Suisse, Allemagne, Belgique, Hollande, Pologne, Lituanie, Lettonie etc... sans oublier quelques traversées de la France dans toutes les directions de la rose des vents, juste pour le plaisir de marcher et de communier avec la nature.

Tous ces beaux voyages ont donné lieu à de nombreux carnets de bord et quelques beaux livres remplis d'humour et d'émotion, mais aussi lui ont donné l'idée de simplifier le voyage des pèlerins vers Compostelle avec la création de la collection des Miam Miam dodo.

Comme il l'a si dit lors d'un entretien : «Voyager, c’est prendre l’air et respirer. Ecrire c’est témoigner pour les autres, ceux qui ne sont pas (encore) partis. Et l’âne c’est le fil conducteur et attachant de ces deux passions.»

Jacques a d'ailleurs créé un site internet bourricot.com qui est une mine d'or pour les futurs âniers. Il a même développé une gamme de matériel adaptée à la randonnée au long cours.

Vous aurez peut-être la chance de le croiser sur les chemins des Causses du Quercy, car comme moi, il vit aujourd'hui dans le joli département du Lot.

En attendant, laissez-vous conter les histoires de Jacques Clouteau :

Histoires secrètes du chemin de Saint Jacques :

12 nouvelles aux accents de mystère qui se déroulent au cours des siècles sur le chemin de Compostelle. A l'image du chemin, ce livre recèle beaucoup d'émotion et des éclats de rire...

Il est un beau chemin semé d'épines et d'étoiles :

la fabuleuse aventure du petit Ferdinand âne du Puy-en-Velay à Santiago,

Plus d'infos sur :

http://www.bourricot.com/Ferdinand/Histoire.html

Enfin, ne manquez pas la parution de la revue numérique mensuelle gratuite

Les Zoreilles du Chemin

Pour avoir un premier aperçu, cliquez ci-dessous pour lire le numéro édité au mois de mars

dans lequel j'ai eu le plaisir de rédiger un article sur la Santiago-thérapie ( pages 3 et 4).

N'hésitez pas à diffuser auprès de vos amis cette revue dont le principal objectif est de faire passer auprès du grand public le message et l'état d'esprit du chemin de Compostelle.

Le principe de diffusion est simple : chacun peut s'abonner ou se désabonner à tout moment, et ce gratuitement. Les abonnés reçoivent chaque mois par mail le nouveau numéro des Zoreilles, en format PDF.

Le contenu éditorial est composé des articles et des documents photographiques provenant des pèlerins eux-mêmes. On trouve de nombreux témoignages de marcheurs qui, au retour de leur voyage, éprouvent le besoin de partager leur bonheur avec d'autres. Quelquefois des articles sur des points d'Histoire sont partagés.

Il existe également une rubrique "perdu de vue" qui permet à des gens qui se sont rencontrés sur le chemin, et qui ont oublié d'échanger leurs coordonnées, de se retrouver après le retour à la maison. On trouve aussi une rubrique "Recherche compagnon", qui permet aux personnes inquiètes de prendre le départ seules, de trouver un compagnon ou une compagne de route et de faire connaissance suffisamment long temps à l'avance pour éviter les déconvenues dès les premiers jours.

La revue "les zoreilles du chemin" est également ouverte aux associations jacquaires si elles ont des informations à faire passer au niveau national sur la vie de l'association, la création d'un chemin ou la publication d'un nouveau topo-guide.

Voilà, vous savez tout ou presque sur le Miam Miam Dodo !!!

Il ne me reste plus qu'à vous souhaiter un bon vent de liberté...

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GR655, Saint-Quentin - Paris (- Ostabat), 234 to Paris, 9 days

The GR655 is the current pilgrims way starting at the border with Belgium and eventually taking you all the way south to Santiago de Compostela. The start is in St Quentin. The trail then goes to Paris via Compiègne. After Paris the route is also named as Via Turonensis. A western route goes via Chartres (GR655 ouest) and an eastern route via Orléans (GR655 est).

The GR655 coincides with the Via Turonensis, but the GR655 starts at the Belgium border, where it takes over from the Via Gallia Belgica, whereas the Via Turonensis starts in Paris.

Via Turonensis, Paris tour Saint-Jacques-de-la-Boucherie - Tours - Ostabat, 593 km, 24 days

The Via Turonensis proper starts in Paris, traditionally at tour Saint-Jacques, from where it is about 1450 km or two months walking to Santiago. The route is heading south-west, a flat itinerary, taking in Bordeaux. In Ostabat it joins two other main pilgrim ways before crossing the Pyrenees and continuing in Spain as the Camino Francés.

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Miam-Miam Dodo or Don't?

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• Start date Feb 10, 2010

• Feb 10, 2010

it seems the miam miam dodo guide is the bible for the Le Puy route,but if the only use for it for non French speakers is a list of Accommodation and telephone numbers which can be got elsewhere ((xacobeo)-would it not be better for me to get the CSJ guide"le puy to the pyrenees" by alison raju for a third of the price-has anyone used this guide I can find no mention of it on the forum? Ian ( i start from Le Puy 1st April)  

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sagalouts said: it seems the miam miam dodo guide is the bible for the Le Puy route,but if the only use for it for non French speakers is a list of Accommodation and telephone numbers which can be got elsewhere ((xacobeo)-would it not be better for me to get the CSJ guide"le puy to the pyrenees" by alison raju for a third of the price-has anyone used this guide I can find no mention of it on the forum? Ian ( i start from Le Puy 1st April) Click to expand...

• Feb 11, 2010

The FFRP Topo Guide to GR 65 has good maps and nice text and tales, even if your French is limited. Nice pictures too. The only reason I'd take a Miam miam would be if it were a busy time and you wanted to call lots of places about lodging.  

Oh yeah---The Alison Raju guide really is not very useful. I bought it and was so unimpressed I left it home. No worth the weight of the paper. I'm sure she is a very nice person  

Here are a few bits scanned from the Miam Miam Dodo so you can see what it is like. On the map it has green dots for the main route, and orange dots for some variant routes. Where the gite and chambre d'hote are listed, you can get an idea of prices (though my page is scanned from a 2007 book so it is out of date now.) You won't be able to see on the small page probably, but it gives months/days when things are open, eg some of the bars/gites along the route are only open May to October. The municipal camping ground is listed as being open from May until October- and in fact many camping grounds in France are seasonal. I was walking at a busy time (mid-April to late May) and personally, I wouldn't have been without the Miam Miam Dodo guide. It helped me plan days of a distance I thought I could manage, and helped me know there was affordable accommodation where I was planning to stop. There are not as many cheap beds on the Le Puy route as you will find in Spain, so if you miss out on a bed in a gite, you might end up paying for a more expensive option. Margaret  

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Hi, when I recently walked the Le Puy route I started off with the Miam Miam Dodo. It is bulky, has got all the accommodations listed, but no elevations profiles or historical/cultural info. I soon found that copies were around as a reference guides in just about every hostel/refuge/gite/ tourist office en route. I bought a Rother guide, which is available in German and French and has lots of historic and cultural info, maps, elevations and limited list of accommodations. I is about half the size of the Miam Miam Dodo guide. I would look at the Miam Miam Dodo whenever I came across one and write appropriate numbers/addresses down in my Rother Guide, supplementing the info there. This worked really well. Regards, Gitti  

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Well, it should be noted that , in French jargon, MIAM MIAM stands for eating and DODO stands for sleeping....so i guess title and content of the book do match pretty well. Having walked LePuy a while ago, and knowing how busy this trail is nowadays from april to august (with walkers booking one year in advance) , i would say you could hardly do without it....especially considering that you'll be on the busy part of it (Le puy-Conques) during Easter week.....i'd say it would be wise to call NOW to book during that week... Enjoy this beautiful walk... Giorgio  

thanks for all your imput,lots of food for thought,just now starting to realize what I'm taking on but as Giorgio says and Margaret shows in her blog it seems a beautiful walk,just going to have to get organised,its going to be so differant to the Camino I did in Spain last year. but as the lightest thing I will be carrying will be my wallet the plan is to carry a lightweight tent and micro stove Margarets blog notes on vipers and tics frighten me a bit though,but for the first few days I will try a mix of online booking and phoning, till Conques at least,thanks for your links in your blog Margaret and Gitti for your accommodation lists in the forum. it seems that all this phoning ahead is a bit like the "Galician gallop" was heartened to read that some places keep beds available for walkers that just turn, up-don't like the idea of a fixed finishing point-hence the tent, again thanks for the info. Ian  

sagalouts said: it seems that all this phoning ahead is a bit like the "Galician gallop" was heartened to read that some places keep beds available for walkers that just turn, up-don't like the idea of a fixed finishing point-hence the tent, Ian Click to expand...

We left LePuy August 24 with absolutely no plans or reservations. We had no problems finding a place when we decided to stop. Sometimes we stumbled across a place, sometimes we went to the tourist office. I saw this on another thread: Hello! I walked part of the Le Puy route in June this year. Just to show you that one can do the camino in diferent ways: We never booked. I know that almost all people do, but last half of June was not top season, and we always got a place to sleep. Not planning to much is one of the important things on the camino for me.  

• Feb 12, 2010

I really would not bother with a tent. Carrying extra stuff is miserable. I walked in September which is also really busy and I had no trouble with accommodation, just booking a couple of days or even a day in advance. There would have been beds in my second or third preferred places, but I tried to get into what looked like really special places as much as possible. Figeac was a bit difficult and so was the first night in Le Puy as there were festivals on. In Figeac though a gite owner who had a gite 5 km out of town came with a van and took the overflow pilgrims to his gite. You really don't need to worry. Cheers Gitti.  

gittiharre said: I really would not bother with a tent. Carrying extra stuff is miserable Click to expand...

Hi again, sorry, I did not realise the tent was a cost saving thing, I thought you were just worried you had nowhere to sleep. I did manage well on 37 Euros per day average on the Le Puy route. I kept exact records every day, because my budget was tight. In Spain I averaged 30 Euros per day in 2006. Regards, Gitti  

sagalouts said: an't got an option Gitti, at an average spend of 50 euro's per day 40 days to SJPP thats 2000 euro's Ian Click to expand...

yea well maybe I rounded the figures up a bit to take into account those small things that add to the cost painkillers, wine more painkillers.compeed...... but there is no getting away from the fact its an expensive Camino. what I find strange is that nowhere in the Le Puy forum is mention of anyone staying at the 15 Pilgrim lodgings ( not Gite d Etape) or the 33 official camping places between Le Puy and SJPP (godesalco) one of the two pilgrim lodgings "St Georges" in Le Puy can house 200 people??? (xacobeo) but no-one seems to stay there but all this is just online and maybe I should listen more to people who have done the walk. well its time for me to find out-just booked my train under the channel to Paris March 30th (my birthday) wish me luck and cheap lodgings! Ian  

• Feb 13, 2010

sagalouts said: what I find strange is that nowhere in the Le Puy forum is mention of anyone staying at the 15 Pilgrim lodgings ( not Gite d Etape) or the 33 official camping places between Le Puy and SJPP (godesalco) Click to expand...

My 37 euros included aperitifs, wine comes with dinner anyway, it also included the odd pharmacy item and a flash haircut, regards, Gitti  

• Feb 14, 2010

Ian , If you can carry the extra kilo of gear take the tent and cooker mate, you will have a wonderful camino. Once you are in Spain you will be very surprised how many camp out and there are some wonderful spots for this throughout the mesata. Many years ago [10] we were in Concots , having a pot and found a couple from Holland looking for a camping site. It was underwater. They ended up staying with us in a home in Escazauls . That year they introduced us to the Camino. If you find some young Australians camping join them , laugh how they survive on the one minute noodles unless they find an older compatriot with bananas and enjoy tales about their past life at uni. Take what comes , put up with it and enjoy.You will hava a wonderful time. Bon Camino and Buen Camino Ian, David  

• Feb 19, 2010

Thornley said: Take what comes , put up with it and enjoy.You will hava a wonderful time. Click to expand...

• Mar 22, 2010

is it possible to buy the Miam Miam Dodo guide in London?  

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AmazonUK carries it, at the minimum.  

• Mar 23, 2010

robmc said: is it possible to buy the Miam Miam Dodo guide in London? Click to expand...

• Mar 24, 2010

Thanks for the advice I am leaving from le Puy on 8 May which is I think is a public holiday and I am concerned that I will not be able to buy it in Le Puy. I am travelling generally from 30 March including London that's why I was hoping there is an old fashioned bookshop I can walk into and buy it in London where I will be visiting on my travels rather than online. If not I will buy it from Amazon and have it sent to friends address in London. I am having difficulty booking the second nights accommodation. I have booked Capucin in le Puy on the 7th. Tried La Cabournne in St Privat d Allier for the 8th however they are booked out. This is no doubt due to the public holidays. Am awaiting a reply from Lescole in Montbonnet. After that I will take my chances. Getting pretty excited as my start day approaches. I would be interesested in hearing from anyone else starting then?I do have a very useful (though in French)guide from the website of the tourist offices of Puy en velay which covers from le Puy to Conques. This site has also been a great inspiration particularly the photos.  

Hi Rob, Not long until you leave home then! CSJ would also post a Miam Miam Dodo to your friend's place in London, and they have always posted things I ordered very quickly. However, at the Cathedral in Le Puy, I know they do credentials for pilgrims in the morning after the blessing after the 7am Mass: I am not sure if they also would sell a MMD then or not. But perhaps you could buy one from the sacristy there on the afternoon of the 7th? I stayed in L'Escole on my first night out of Le Puy and I loved the atmosphere there. I don't know if you have e-mailed in French or not though..... as I don't think they speak any English. 8 May is a public holiday and the French do take their public holidays seriously! Ascension Day is also treated like a public holiday on May 13th, and Pentecost brings a long weekend (with May 24th being Whit Monday). So all the days around those dates need a bit of prior booking if possible. All the best! Margaret  

sagalouts said: I leave London for Le-puy 30th march and will where poss be blogging or posting live from the camino. Ian Click to expand...

• Mar 25, 2010

The place is called Chemin de bonheur. Marie and Jean-Marc Lucien. No booking. One of my best memories from last june. Not because of beds og room (one!) or other things like that, but because of the family, their christian attitude, the people we stayed together with and things like that.  

• Mar 28, 2010

robmc said: Thanks for the advice I am leaving from le Puy on 8 May which is I think is a public holiday and I am concerned that I will not be able to buy it in Le Puy. I am travelling generally from 30 March including London that's why I was hoping there is an old fashioned bookshop I can walk into and buy it in London where I will be visiting on my travels rather than online. If not I will buy it from Amazon and have it sent to friends address in London. I am having difficulty booking the second nights accommodation. I have booked Capucin in le Puy on the 7th. Tried La Cabournne in St Privat d Allier for the 8th however they are booked out. This is no doubt due to the public holidays. Am awaiting a reply from Lescole in Montbonnet. After that I will take my chances. Getting pretty excited as my start day approaches. I would be interesested in hearing from anyone else starting then?I do have a very useful (though in French)guide from the website of the tourist offices of Puy en velay which covers from le Puy to Conques. This site has also been a great inspiration particularly the photos. Click to expand...

• Apr 2, 2010

Hello all potential Le Puy walkers, I feel I must leap in here in defence of the Alison Raju guide. I carried it (often in my pocket - because it is a convenient size) for the Le Puy leg that I did in 2007. I found the guide very reliable in terms of directions. If I found myself in a spot where I was uncertain as to which way to go, which did happen from time to time, I would refer to the guide and invariably things were EXACTLY as described, and I was able to sort out the dilemmas I had. In addition to that, as a non French speaker, I found that the historical / cultural tips that Alison provides about the villages and towns I was passing through were also very helpful. At first glance it might appear a dry and dull tome, but in my experience it accomplishes exactly what it purports to! To compensate for the lack of maps I carried some photo copied "cut and pasted" road maps (double sided to save weight) and this helped with naming towns in the distance etc. Also, in relation to the gites along the way that especially fulfill the needs of pilgrims, there is a substanial list on a website (beginning with "Les Herbergment ..... chemin Compostelle"). I marked these in the guide and where possible I stayed in them. However, it will depend on the length of your walking day as to whether it is possible to stop there or not. Another comment with regard to cost is that the Vezelay path is the cheapest of all the french paths that I have walked thus far. In seven and a half weeks walking from Troyes (a week north of Vezelay) to Irun (via St Jean Pied de Port) I only spent $3,400 AUD (excluding air ticket and health insurance), but this included train travel to Troyes, postage, all food and accomodation, museum entrances etc etc. Nonetheless - the Vezelay, the Le Puy and the Arles paths are very beautiful - but each are very different. regards, Janet  

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Kowabunga! That seems like a lot of money to me! I spent 3 MONTHS walking portions of the VDLP, the Frances, the Aragonese and the Norte and only spent a little over $3,000  

• Apr 5, 2010

Hi there Annie, at the risk of sounding argumentative I will just point out that living expenses are recognized as being considerably more expensive in France than in Spain. I also said that it was in Australian currency, which at the time was worth about $1.00american to 70cents Aud. I also said that this covered everything - including a TGV train ride to Troyes, purchasing of postage stamps - sometimes as much as $20 a week, and even new boots! It also included about 8 nights of hotels (I always stay in hotels for a rest day). I did find though that the Le Puy route is a little more expensive as there is not the same opportunity for self catering as there is on the Voie de Vezelay. Accomodation at pilgrim places ranged in price from anywhere between 5 Euros to about 12 Euros, and then in some private gites it was in the vicinity of about 15 - 18 euros (Compared to about 17 Euros - 35 Euros on the Le Puy route). This accomodation consistently outstripped - in price and quality - anything that I have stayed in on either the Camino Frances , Camino del Norte, Camino Primitivo, the Le Puy route or the Arles route. There were a number of albergues on the Camino Aragonese that were of the same consistently high value as those on the Voie de Vezelay. Please don't get me wrong though - I have loved staying in every one of the Gites / refuges / albergues along the various Camino's I have made, and very much appreciate all that has been provided. I found it quite astonishing to see the detail and care that local people had put into the establishment of the pilgrim refuges on the Voie de Vezelay - comfortable beds - sometimes with real sheets to sleep between, well equpipped kitchens - and in some cases delicious food availbale for purchase, and clean bathrooms, and all in a very convenient location. The friendliness, and the kindness and generosity of these people will stay with me for a very long time. Cheers, Janet  

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• May 4, 2010

A couple of thoughts on MMD in Spain. I'm a big fan of the guide and have used it most recently on the GR 65 in France. It's not a trail guide per se, but about facilities, etc. I think it's designed to be consumed as you walk along, so it's weight decreases to zero. They even give the weight on the back as a full book and after you've torn out the 30 intro pages. I tore the covers off as well. No guide I've ever seen has all the facilities, so if you want the most info at hand, it may well be worth your while. For a fuller description there's this page: http://www.longwalking.com/trail-guides-the-miam-miam-dodo/ As for costs, when I walked the camino in 2007, there was a Spanish newspaper article I read that said Spanish youth who were walking it (it's sort of a rite of passage for many of them) spent 1 euro per kilometer. Last year when I walked the French (mostly) and Silver (partly) in June, there were plenty of 3 to 5 euro beds along the way. Have fun!  

• Oct 16, 2010

Paper is the heaviest substance known to man, isn't it? On my walk from Le Puy to Cahors, I took the applicable pages from the current MMD (just razored them out of the binding). And when I was through with that page, I tossed it. The weight of the collection went steadily down. Although I originally only intended to use the lodging info, I discovered the maps were terrific, especially for sussing out the several variants and other slightly off-beat routes. (This was one of the major epiphanies of my trip: maps in your pocket where you can access them readily are even better than maps safely in the bottom of the pack.)  

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Does anyone know when the 2011 MMDD guides are likely to come out? I will be walking in spring, I hope, and wonder whether a new edition will be available or whether I should just buy a 2010 guide now. Thanks, Laurie  

• Oct 17, 2010

Hi Laurie According to Amazon.fr, in previous years the annually updated MMDs to the Chemin du Puy and the Camino Frances have appeared in late November/early December of the preceding year. So I would have thought you'd be fine if you wait a little while before purchasing, and then get the 2011 version. Mike  

I got mine from Amazon UK on 13 April this year (2010), which was plenty of time for my September trip. With your schedule though, you might be more comfortable with the 2010 edition, at least for initial planning. Then you could consult the 2011 at the last minute, or in various tourist offices/gites along the way.  

• Oct 18, 2010

There were always plenty of MMD available to consult - either at the tourist office, most gites, and fellow pilgrims along the way too. I had the Raju guide with me.  

• Apr 26, 2017

I did the Camino in 2014 and used Miam Miam Dodo to book accommodation each day. I travelled through France during April & May so was worried about accommodation on the Religious Holiday weekends and booked ahead several times. I would highly recommend it. Each day I would rip out the pages for the previous day to lighten the load since the book would never be reused. I had bought the Raju guide but it was too wordy (on the trail) to be useful and I purchased and would readily recommend the Michelin guides as being light and having just enough map details to suffice.  

• Sep 14, 2017

I'm near Cahors now, not doing the Camino but on holiday and doing short circular walks each day. The MMD has been great with maps and distances for me in planning each day. The 2017 edition is in two parts now. There are a lot of walkers here and at the cafes at lunchtime more than half are consulting their MMD. I also have an App on my phone Samsung health. Its a free app I use at home to track food and exercise. I'm finding it brillant here as it connects to Google maps and tracks exactly were you are, every teeny farm track is on it and you can set it to call out to you at set distances, for example every km. Ive walked through random woods and tracks every day and always known where I am.  

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• Sep 15, 2017

great that your phone will know where you are, even if you don't! those apps are a hoot. They nearly tell you how many there are in the queue for coffee ahead...  

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